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Old September 9th 05, 07:42 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:19:07 GMT, john smith wrote in
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That Airworthiness Directive was a result of a number of in-flight
failures attributed to flutter wasn't it? It was a necessary design
change to deal with an unanticipated problem inherent in the original
design, IIRC.


Not flutter, over stressed by exceeding design speeds.


Right. That makes sense.

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Old September 9th 05, 07:51 PM
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:39:11 GMT, Larry Dighera
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On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:41:41 -0600, Newps wrote
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I have a 64 S35, first year with the IO520 and the first year as a six
seater so as a four seater you have a lot of cargo space. One of the
first things you notice is these things are really put together.
Cessnas and Pipers are flimsy beer cans compared to a Bonanza, of course
thats also why the empty weight is 230 pounds more.


You probably haven't had your Bonanza long enough to answer this
question, but how do you find the cost of maintenance? I have heard
that Raytheon charges exorbitant prices for parts.

Back in the late 90s I made a short trip from John Wayne Airport to
Van Nuys to pick up a passenger. The owner of the FBO from whom I
rented the aircraft for the flight asked if I might pick up a set of
generator brushes for him. I intended to pick up my passenger at the
Raytheon ramp on KVNY, so I agreed to bring the parts back with me.
The cost for two generator brushes (for clarity, these are about the
size of a half stick of blackboard chalk and made of carbon). The
bill was about $200.00! I was shocked. When I worked at the
electrical wholesale house in the 70s, we sold similar brushes for
$0.50 each.

So what has been the experience of other Bonanza owners with regard to
maintenance costs?


As of 5 years ago:
Sisors pin for nose gear: Was over $300 (It's 1/4 inch drill rod)
Shimp pack for nose gear: Varies, but bout $170 give or take.
Nose gear strut: $7000
Gear Door hinges: About $470 each and there are two per door.
Outer gear door: About $500

Throttle cable: A tad less than $300, but you'll probably have to
find a supplier for the older Bos as Ratheon doesn't carry them.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

[crossposted to rec.aviation.owning]

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Old September 9th 05, 08:06 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:51:56 -0400, Roger
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So what has been the experience of other Bonanza owners with regard to
maintenance costs?


As of 5 years ago:
Sisors pin for nose gear: Was over $300 (It's 1/4 inch drill rod)
Shimp pack for nose gear: Varies, but bout $170 give or take.
Nose gear strut: $7000
Gear Door hinges: About $470 each and there are two per door.
Outer gear door: About $500

Throttle cable: A tad less than $300, but you'll probably have to
find a supplier for the older Bos as Ratheon doesn't carry them.


Those prices are similarly outrageous to the generator brushes I
mentioned. I presume they are retail prices. The brushes were
wholesale presumably, as I was picking them up for an A&P. Or does
Raytheon offer wholesale pricing at all?

Have you had any luck in mitigating parts costs by shopping at
Wentworth Aircraft, Inc: http://www.wentworthaircraft.com/home.htm
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Old September 9th 05, 09:06 PM
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
No different from Mooney or probably any other.

-Robert


What?
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Old September 9th 05, 09:10 PM
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Larry Dighera wrote:



Right now I have one dimmer switch that is belly up. Mechanic says
$350 from Beech but he will check his other sources and get a cheaper
one.



A dimmer is nothing more than a wire-wound rheostat right? If it
hasn't been charred beyond serviceability, and the fault is a result
of an open winding, it might be an easy matter to procure the proper
gage Nichrome wire, and rewind it. Materials: $1.00


I went flying today and saw that my mechanic had fixed the rheostat,
don't yet know what he did. I have Nulites and now the panel looks
really cool.

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Old September 9th 05, 09:17 PM
Larry Dighera
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:10:12 -0600, Newps wrote
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I went flying today and saw that my mechanic had fixed the rheostat,
don't yet know what he did. I have Nulites and now the panel looks
really cool.


Great.

I'll bet it was an easy fix; it's a very simple system:
http://www.nulite.net/electrical.htm
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Old September 9th 05, 09:19 PM
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:06:20 -0600, Newps wrote
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
No different from Mooney or probably any other.

-Robert


What?


I think he was referring to the enormously inflated price of aircraft
parts.

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Old September 9th 05, 10:05 PM
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Larry Dighera wrote:

On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:10:12 -0600, Newps wrote
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I went flying today and saw that my mechanic had fixed the rheostat,
don't yet know what he did. I have Nulites and now the panel looks
really cool.


Great.

I'll bet it was an easy fix; it's a very simple system:
http://www.nulite.net/electrical.htm


Another high priced product.
Google "electroluminescent rope"
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Old September 9th 05, 10:38 PM
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On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:05:39 GMT, john smith wrote in
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"electroluminescent rope"


Oh, you mean this stuff:
http://www.glowire.com/basic_glowire_information.htm
Cleaver.

Here
http://www.talkingelectronics.com/Pr...itELine04.html
they say it operates at 120V 500Hz, there might be some interaction
with the ADF at that frequency and its harmonics. Or perhaps Nulites
chose another frequency for their inverter.
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Old September 9th 05, 10:53 PM
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("Larry Dighera" wrote)
[Robert M. Gary wrote]
No different from Mooney or probably any other.


What?


I think he was referring to the enormously inflated price of aircraft
parts.



You seldom know what R.M.G. is talking about because he "over-trims."


Montblack
 




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