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Roy Smith wrote: In article , wrote: Stan Gosnell wrote: wrote in : You need to look closer. They have taxiways and ramps, although they don't have buildings. Not the ones I've seen, admittedly not that many. KGLS, Galveston, TX, shows almost no detail, no taxiways, no ramp, no nothing, and there is a lot here. Jepp shows it all. The NACO chart also shows runway 8/26, which has been closed for over 20 years, and can no longer even be seen. After I posted my reply I pulled up the NACO PDF for GLS ILS 13? and see all kinds of taxiways, etc. Not to mention (if I counted right) 13 DP's and 7 STAR's! Crazy, ain't it! I expected to see a NACO airport diagram PDF with all that other stuff. |
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Roy Smith wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Not many non-tower fields have runway and taxi way layouts that are all that complicated. I'm sure there's one somewhere in the US, but I haven't come across it yet. The most complicated non-towered field I know if is HTO (http://www.myairplane.com/databases/...5016VDRG10.PDF). Three runways, and the main runway parallel taxiway doesn't go the whole length. At night, it's easy to get confused as to where you're going. DAMHIKT :-) Non-towered airports with more than one runway make me uncomfortable. Make it three runways, with two of them doubling as taxiways, and it becomes downright scary. Where's your sense of adventure, Roy! :-) Matt |
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Roy Smith wrote in
: Not to mention (if I counted right) 13 DP's and 7 STAR's! Those are for the Houston area, with both HOU, IAH, EFD, and lots of smaller airports around. I've never been given any of those in all the years I've been flying out of here. I don't fly big iron at flight levels. -- Regards, Stan |
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Stan Gosnell wrote: wrote in : After I posted my reply I pulled up the NACO PDF for GLS ILS 13? and see all kinds of taxiways, etc. The ILS 13 I pulled off the referenced site shows no taxiways at all. I'm not talking about the airport diagram, but the mini diagram on the approach plate, which was what you suggested would be sufficient, IIRC. The approach plate I have, Amdt 10A, shows no taxiways in the airport diagram block. Maybe we're talking about different things. Hmmmm....well I've pasted both Jepp's and NACO's airport diagrams in a JPEG on alt.binaries.pictures.aviation called "Airport Diagrams." The taxiways on the NACO chart (little airport diagram on Amendment 10A KGLS ILS or LOC 13, from June 10 load on NACO web site). |
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wrote in message ... Unfortunately, those mini-diagrams don't have taxiway data or building layouts. You need to look closer. They have taxiways and ramps, although they don't have buildings. Some of the larger ones perhaps, but one place I go (EFC) it only shows the runway and general shape of the ramp...and that's actually sorta inaccurate. What I like with a full AD is being able to find a taxi way when the ground controller tells me where to go...literally. Jeppesen shows exactly the same airport layout for EFC as does NACO. There isn't any taxiway. Yes. And this is of interest...why? The topic is the lack of AD's on certain airports and the fact that the mini-diagrams are not very detailed. So... |
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Tom Sixkiller wrote: wrote in message ... Unfortunately, those mini-diagrams don't have taxiway data or building layouts. You need to look closer. They have taxiways and ramps, although they don't have buildings. Some of the larger ones perhaps, but one place I go (EFC) it only shows the runway and general shape of the ramp...and that's actually sorta inaccurate. What I like with a full AD is being able to find a taxi way when the ground controller tells me where to go...literally. Jeppesen shows exactly the same airport layout for EFC as does NACO. There isn't any taxiway. Yes. And this is of interest...why? The topic is the lack of AD's on certain airports and the fact that the mini-diagrams are not very detailed. So... The topic is "How to Get NACO online charts conveniently, then it digressed to someone not wanting to give up Jepps for NACO because of Jepp's airport diagrams. What's an "AD?" |
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Dave Butler wrote: wrote: The topic is "How to Get NACO online charts conveniently, then it digressed to someone not wanting to give up Jepps for NACO because of Jepp's airport diagrams. What's an "AD?" airport diagram would be my guess. I guess that was too obvious. ;-) So, where an airport has a tower, thus probably a ground controller, NACO seems to have those covered with full page "ADs." At a non-tower airport that doesn't have a full page NACO "AD" I can easily make one with Acrobat cropping of the NACO vector graphics. |
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