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Confusion about when it's my navigation, and when it's ATC



 
 
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Old January 10th 07, 03:34 PM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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mad8 wrote:
Paul kgyy wrote:
If you want a better feel for what actually goes on than you will ever
get via newsgroup, take a couple of United flights and listen to the
ATC channel - it can be much more entertaining than the movie at times.


i love that "channel". It's really fun being able to say to the person
you're flying with "i can predict the future. Check it out, we're gonna
turn left in about 3 seconds"


Coming into LAX a while back, I was listening on that channel. We
were cruising along nicely when I hear ATC urgently call out something
like "United 123, traffic twelve o'clock, descend immediately to eight
thousand, please expedite!" I turned to my companion and said "hold
on". A second later, we all went weightless as the plane took an
unusually sharp dive.

After we leveled off again, the captain came on the speaker and said,
"Well folks, as you can tell, we've just been given permission to
descend towards the airport."

Kev

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Old January 11th 07, 12:18 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a
few years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final
and the tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the
runway." Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines got
real loud. The tower then told the Baron to clear the active, contact
ground and call the tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the
runway incurrtion at the same time the tower did.


Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet. I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Allen
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Old January 11th 07, 12:22 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in
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I had a similar experience on a United flight into Little Rock AR a
few years ago. I was listening to the channel while we were on final
and the tower calls "United 456, GO AROUND GO AROUND, Aircraft on the
runway." Before the second "Go Around" had been called the engines got
real loud. The tower then told the Baron to clear the active, contact
ground and call the tower at XXX-XXXX when able.

We were own very short final. And I have no doubt the pilot saw the
runway incurrtion at the same time the tower did.


Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet. I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?

Allen


United's Channel 9 (when the captain allows) is usually available from
battery on to shutdown. I've listened to the ATIS, clearance, push, taxi,
takeoff, etc with the only interuptions being the safety briefing and what's
for lunch.

Jay B


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Old January 11th 07, 01:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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A Lieberma writes:

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet.


There's nothing to stow for on-board entertainment. And the most
interesting part of listening to ATC would be during take-off and
landing.

I would have
thought that all audio and movie channels would be turned off by the
captain, especially short final?


Why?

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Old January 11th 07, 01:29 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
A Lieberma wrote:

Hmmm, aren't all electronics stowed below 10,000 feet.


PORTABLE electronics. If they shut off the aircraft-installed radios
below 10,000, it would make communications with the tower a little
difficult. :-)
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Old January 11th 07, 02:41 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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United's Channel 9 (when the captain allows) is usually available from
battery on to shutdown. I've listened to the ATIS, clearance, push,
taxi, takeoff, etc with the only interuptions being the safety
briefing and what's for lunch.


Hopefully Continental will do the same tomorrow when I leave from HOU to
HNL :-)) as JAN to HOU, lil RJs are not outfitted with channel niners.

Allen
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Old January 11th 07, 05:02 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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"A Lieberma" wrote in message
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"Jay Beckman" wrote in
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United's Channel 9 (when the captain allows) is usually available from
battery on to shutdown. I've listened to the ATIS, clearance, push,
taxi, takeoff, etc with the only interuptions being the safety
briefing and what's for lunch.


Hopefully Continental will do the same tomorrow when I leave from HOU to
HNL :-)) as JAN to HOU, lil RJs are not outfitted with channel niners.

Allen


AFAIK,

United is the only carrier that has ATC on the entertainment system.

Jay B


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Old January 11th 07, 05:36 AM posted to rec.aviation.ifr,rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.student
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In article ,
A Lieberma wrote:

Hopefully Continental will do the same tomorrow when I leave from HOU to
HNL :-)) as JAN to HOU, lil RJs are not outfitted with channel niners.


United is the only airline I've ever heard of that does the
ATC-through-the-audio-system thing. I know for sure that Continental
doesn't.

Frankly, though, choosing between Continental and United is a
no-brainer. I'd rather ride on Continental any day of the week, even
without "channel 9." Nicer planes, better food.
 




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