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Old October 22nd 03, 07:48 PM
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
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Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et...

Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.


As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?

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Old October 22nd 03, 09:07 PM
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Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj wrote:
Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message
et...

Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent
to Nazi Germany.


As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?


Uh, no.


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Old October 22nd 03, 10:55 PM
Stuart Wilkes
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ...
Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et...

Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.


As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes

Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?


No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia
and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly
feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of
attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and
Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US.

Stuart Wilkes
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Old October 23rd 03, 03:49 AM
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
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Stuart Wilkes wrote:

"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message ...

Stuart Wilkes wrote:


"Snuffy Smith" wrote in message et...


Don't forget to tell us about all the raw materials Uncle Joe sent to Nazi
Germany.

As well as the raw materials the US sent to Japan.

Stuart Wilkes


Did the US have a pact with Japan, similar to the Stalin Hitler,
Molotov Ribbentrop pact to divide Europe between them?



No. The US government had no particular interest in dividing Mongolia
and Siberia with Japan. Mongolia and Siberia are not particularly
feasable routes if a Japanese government has the intention of
attacking the US. And the Japanese attacks on the Soviets and
Mongolia drew no adverse reaction from the US.

Stuart Wilkes


Regarding your assertion equating pre 1941 US Japan trade with
soviet assistance to Hitlers reich.
Wasn't there an embargo placed on shipments of steel between
the two countries, as well as access to oil?
How does this support your implications?
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Rostyk

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Old October 23rd 03, 04:04 AM
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My personal opinion is the Pearl Harbour attacks were a waste of time since
Japan could have expanded into the areas without much more than a yell or

two
from the U.S..


Japan didn't think so, largely because raw materials that they needed to
continue expanding into Asia had been embargoed by the U.S. On top of
that, neither the Brits nor the Dutch were likely to stand aside and let
Japan take over the Dutch East Indies oil fields.

OK, I may not have been clear. I was referring to U.S. reaction. As for the
British and Dutch forces actual events showed the Japanese had the ability to
handle them.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired


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Old October 23rd 03, 07:48 AM
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OK, I may not have been clear. I was referring to U.S. reaction. As for

the
British and Dutch forces actual events showed the Japanese had the ability

to
handle them.

Dan, U. S. Air Force, retired



The problem for the Japanese was that with US forces in
the Phillipines the Americans were in a position to interdict
supplies from the NEI to the home islands.

They had noted the US buildup and were well aware that
within a year or two they would be simply unable to take
out those bases and would be almost out of oil since
they had at best 2 years oil supplies on hand and it would
take that long to restore the NEI fields to production
and produce enough tankers to move that production.

The Japanese had not only been dependent on US oil
but US tankers to transport it.

Keith


 




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