VFR position reporting

Not necessarily. Read the AIM.



"BT" wrote in message
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| if you are making position reports
| do you not then have flight following?
| BT
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| "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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| I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position
reports if you
| are flying VFR over long distances without flight
following. To whom
| do you report your position, and what information should
it include?
| Which positions do you report and how often?
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

Although VFR position
reports are usually given directly to FSS Radio on one of
the frequencies publish on the sectional chart or in the
AFD, you can give a VFR position report to ATC even if you
are not in radar contact, just call Center [call sign] VFR
position report. They will be able to record the report and
are happy to do so, particularly in remote areas.

This is good to know. I thought only FSS was willing to take position
reports, and that you had to request flight following with ATC in
order to have them record your position.

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"Scott Post" wrote in message
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In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:
Scott Post writes:

You do realize that a radio isn't required for VFR flight, right?

Yes, just as you surely realize that making position reports aids S&R
if you should happen to go down for any reason (if you have not
requested flight following from ATC). You do make position reports
when flying over long distances, don't you?

Surely you aren't planning to make position reports in your game?

I can't believe that this idiot is so clueless. (Not Scott)

Would someone with a good book that covers about everything in today's flying,
PLEASE send it to him.

I'll even kick in to buy one, if it would stop all of these stupid questions.
--
Jim in NC

BT writes:

if you are making position reports
do you not then have flight following?

No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the
other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they
don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If
you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or
ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make
periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case
you crash.

From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making
position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details.

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"Morgans" writes:
"Scott Post" wrote in message
...
In article ,
Mxsmanic wrote:
Scott Post writes:

You do realize that a radio isn't required for VFR flight, right?

Yes, just as you surely realize that making position reports aids S&R
if you should happen to go down for any reason (if you have not
requested flight following from ATC). You do make position reports
when flying over long distances, don't you?

Surely you aren't planning to make position reports in your game?

I can't believe that this idiot is so clueless. (Not Scott)

Would someone with a good book that covers about everything in today's flying,
PLEASE send it to him.

I'll even kick in to buy one, if it would stop all of these stupid questions.

A few years ago, when I was still in grad school, I picked up an old
Jeppesen private pilot textbook on eBay for $5. If Mxsmanic can't
afford that, then I am not sure how he feeds himself.

If we are talking about something that cheap, hell, I'll chip in too.

Chris

Yes. Most of the time they don't, though.

Jay, are you ready to admit defeat, and cut MX loose, yet?

I'm just wondering. I think you might be a pretty good barometer of the others
in the group that are still answering his questions.

I know you did support him (and still may) but I sure wish we would do like the
simulator group, and start shutting him out.

He will never be a positive contribution to this group, or to general aviation.
--
Jim in NC

I agree Jim... but Mxs is a non pilot..
it is a matter of semantics..

BT

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
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Not necessarily. Read the AIM.



"BT" wrote in message
...
| if you are making position reports
| do you not then have flight following?
| BT
|
| "Mxsmanic" wrote in message
| ...
| I'm still not clear on the exact procedure for position
reports if you
| are flying VFR over long distances without flight
following. To whom
| do you report your position, and what information should
it include?
| Which positions do you report and how often?
|
| --
| Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.
|
|

ok.. so once again the non pilot asking so many questions knows better than
30yr multi thousand hour pilots.

I fully understand the "radar flight following", but I can make position
reports to FSS and they will know where to begin looking for me (between my
last report and my intended destination), so they would have a "flight
following paper trail" of where I have been, even if it is not real time
radar.

From what you tend to know or have about flight following or position
reporting, that same book will (should) have the format for position
reporting.

Oh, while you've got them on the line, give them a pilot report.

BT

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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BT writes:

if you are making position reports
do you not then have flight following?

No, they are two different things. Normally you have one or the
other. If you have flight following, ATC has you on radar, and they
don't need position reports, as they know exactly where you are. If
you don't have flight following (because you haven't requested it, or
ATC has refused it, or you are not visible on radar), you can make
periodic position reports, so that people know where you are, in case
you crash.

From what I understand, you try to report to a FSS if you are making
position reports, but I'm not sure of the other details.

--
Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail.

"Mxsmanic" wrote in message
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"Jim Macklin" writes:

Although VFR position
reports are usually given directly to FSS Radio on one of
the frequencies publish on the sectional chart or in the
AFD, you can give a VFR position report to ATC even if you
are not in radar contact, just call Center [call sign] VFR
position report. They will be able to record the report and
are happy to do so, particularly in remote areas.

This is good to know. I thought only FSS was willing to take position
reports, and that you had to request flight following with ATC in
order to have them record your position.


It's "on the tape", that way, and in the event of an overdue aircraft, all
records along the flight path are checked for contact with the missing
aircraft. The ATC if he has time may even hit the hotline to the local FSS
and pass the information.

B

How did the sim group shut him out? Please share it with the rest of us so
we can do the same.

Actually I'm going to France next summer- perhaps I should look him up and
give him a stack of old charts and books. Besides, I've never seen a real
live troll before.