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Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war
"oO" wrote in message
... Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war The October 25 demonstration in Washington was particularly noteworthy for the participation of a number of families that have been directly affected by the deployment of their kinsmen in Iraq. It's so refreshing to see Americans exercising their right of free speech, should remind all of us that the ultimate sacrifice our troops have made throughout the years, was not in vain. BTW this isn't Bush's war, it's America's war, Congress did vote in support of the invasion, lest we forget. Mark |
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Mark Test wrote: "oO" wrote in message ... Families of soldiers condemn Bush's war The October 25 demonstration in Washington was particularly noteworthy for the participation of a number of families that have been directly affected by the deployment of their kinsmen in Iraq. It's so refreshing to see Americans exercising their right of free speech, should remind all of us that the ultimate sacrifice our troops have made throughout the years, was not in vain. BTW this isn't Bush's war, it's America's war, Congress did vote in support of the invasion, lest we forget. It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised lest we forget.... From: vincent Brannigan ) Subject: Old Europe and Law? View: Complete Thread (101 articles) Original Format Newsgroups: sci.military.naval Date: 2003-03-31 07:46:34 PST Cecil Turner wrote: The US is not attacking Iraq because it wants to "be the arbiter of good and evil," but because its WMD programs represent an unacceptable security risk to the US. And I'd suggest the US not only has a "right to be heard" (thanks for that, BTW), but a right not to have biological agents dispersed on its streets. And if they dont have WMD Bush and cheny resign in disgrace ? Vince Vince |
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Vince Brannigan wrote:
:It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old. :lest we forget.... Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now it's suddenly all Bush's fault. Get a clue.... -- "War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature, and has no chance of being free unless made or kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stuart Mill |
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"Fred J. McCall" wrote in message ... Vince Brannigan wrote: :It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old. :lest we forget.... Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now it's suddenly all Bush's fault. Of course they knew he *had* them - they ****ing give them to him. the point it - he clearly destroyed them .. Get a clue.... We were told by the weapons inspectors he didnt have them anymore. Nobody believed he had them outside of the US, but the only people who could really know - the weapons experts who were actually there inspecting in Iraq (including Mr.Blix) said there were NONE. Despite this the UN was shown Powells laughable powerpoint demonstration that showed a drawing of a truck that was meant to be evidence of a mobile weapons factory...lol..****ing hell thats funny...what happened when they invaded? The truck was being used for weather experiments. lol |
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Fred J. McCall wrote: Vince Brannigan wrote: :It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old. :lest we forget.... Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now it's suddenly all Bush's fault. Get a clue.... People "believed" it because el Busho said it was so. It wasnt so. Whjat we dont knwo yet is whether Busho was lying or delusional Vince |
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B2431 wrote:
From: Vince Brannigan snip It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised lest we forget.... So none of the other reasons we went will count if no WMDs are found? You mean nuclear weapons which also turned out to be non-existent? And aluminum tubes supposedly bought for the non-existent nuclear weapons? Or that his people didn't love him? There are a lot more North Koreans who don't love their leader and we're not going to war with them over that, are we? .....Granted Bush emphasized WMDs, but he also gave other reasons for going to war not the least of which Iraq was still violating every single agreement they made since the Gulf War. Oh, breaking treaties is a reason to go to war? Like the Kyoto Accords, or the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, both of which we pulled out of unilaterally. ......Keep in mind Clinton, the U.N. and many countries said Iraq had WMDs. But they didn't go to war with him over that, did they? Should we impeach all the congressmen who voted for the war? Of course not....we believed all of the garbage the President fed us, so why should be expect the people who represent us to be any smarter than we were? They're just as dumb as we are, but being stupid is not a reason for kicking people out of office. If we did that, we wouldn't have a congress and would be living under a dictatorship. George Z. |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 08:41:39 -0500, "George Z. Bush"
wrote: Oh, breaking treaties is a reason to go to war? Like the Kyoto Accords, or the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty, both of which we pulled out of unilaterally. Throwing a lot of stuff on the wall in the hope that some sticks is a danger of political debate in modern America. For the record, let us note that the Kyoto Accords were not ratified by the Senate and that George Bush' decision to not continue is well within his Constitutional authority. We might also note that the impact on the US economy imposed by Kyoto goes well beyond what would be reasonable to counter a "global warming" that may be considered scientifically dubious at best. And, the ABM withdrawal was in no way unilateral. You might review the discussions between Bush and Putin and the agreement of the Russian president with the rationale for withdrawal. Keep in mind that compliance with any treaty, anywhere, at any time, is governed by national self-interest. There's no international cop to knock on the door of a treaty violator. |
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Vince:
- What about the 30 or so 55 gal drums of Lewisite? - What about the mobile chem labs? - What about the Rycin? - What about the Botulinum? - What about the anthrax cultures? - What about the residuals at various dumping sites? How much "evidence of WMD;" or, more to the point, "evidence of WMD programs" is enough for you? Steve Swartz "Vince Brannigan" wrote in message ... Fred J. McCall wrote: Vince Brannigan wrote: :It's the country's war when Bush produces the WMDs he promised Jesus Christ, Vince, what are you smoking THIS weekend? Were you frightened by a bush when you were very young, or what? That's the only excuse I can find for your unreasoned venom, since you're old enough to not be behaving like a 13 year old. :lest we forget.... Yeah, lest we forget, EVERYONE believed he had such weapons, including the French, the Russians, and even Saddam himself, apparently. Now it's suddenly all Bush's fault. Get a clue.... People "believed" it because el Busho said it was so. It wasnt so. Whjat we dont knwo yet is whether Busho was lying or delusional Vince |
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"oO" wrote We were told by the weapons inspectors he didnt have them anymore. Nobody believed he had them outside of the US, but the only people who could really know - the weapons experts who were actually there inspecting in Iraq (including Mr.Blix) said there were NONE. "What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002 Pete |
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