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Wouldn't the BUFF be considered a 2nd generation bomber? ;-)
Apparently that depends BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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I wonder if there are BUFF pilots out there flying the same aircraft
their grandfather did. I'd heard of pilots flying the very same F-4s their dads did. For the 50th Anniversary of the B-52 in Wichita in the Spring of 2002 they were able to assemble two (or maybe three?) groups of grandfathers, fathers and sons who had all crewed the B-52. I remember seeing e-mail asking for info on such unique people in the Summer of 2000 and wondered if any existed. There are numerous storys about father-son BUFF crewmembers. We even had two in my squadron at one time. One radar nav whose son was a BUFF pilot and an ol' BUFF pilot whose son was a radar nav. Kind of interesting. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" |
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"Alan Minyard" wrote in message news On 14 Dec 2003 22:11:39 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote: 5th Generation (???) - MiG 1.42, Su-30 series or FA/22, F-35 Fourth. Hmmm, okay Mary what would a 5th Generation fighter be? They are using that term fairly regularly when discussing the Su-30 family. BUFDRVR "Stay on the bomb run boys, I'm gonna get those bomb doors open if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek" IMHO it would be the F-22 and F-35. The first generation to integrate true stealth, super cruise (F-22) a new generation of electronics, etc. Well, perhaps the F-35 and a flock of mindless bots. |
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On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 23:23:47 +0000, "Paul J. Adam"
wrote: In message , Alan Minyard writes On 14 Dec 2003 22:11:39 GMT, (BUFDRVR) wrote: Hmmm, okay Mary what would a 5th Generation fighter be? They are using that term fairly regularly when discussing the Su-30 family. IMHO it would be the F-22 and F-35. The first generation to integrate true stealth, super cruise (F-22) a new generation of electronics, etc. See my other post. Supercruise is 5th generation if you're selling F-22s, unless you're looking at Typhoon in which case supercruise is irrelevant and stealth is crucial... and, again, many of those 'new generation electronics' are common to both platforms. Just my opinion but it *seems* like "generation" is a combination of timeframe, sensors, avionics, and a few goodies the previous generation didn't have. Internal weapons carriage isn't one but an AESA radar and whatever the hell sharing of information is called as in the Gripen and F-22 (don't know of others that have it, that was just and example). IRST and helmet mounted sights, while they would be found on a 5th generation fighter, don't necessarily make a plane a "5th" generation because they are found on earilier aircraft. Stealth is a 5th but "stealthy" is generally found on those considered "4th+" or "4th and a half". Just my two cents. |
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