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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 26, 12:03*pm, Jeffrey Bloss wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009 01:43:54 -0800 (PST), Flaps_50! wrote: Try this: get the nose way up and add say 1/2 power. You've trimmed for airspeed now with this high attitude so control airspeed with power and aim point with elevator. You'll be amazed at your approach angle in this very high drag config. If the stall peeps just open the throttle a bit and keep that aim point fixed all the way down. Get used to flying on the throttle with almost second by second subtle power changes. Now you drop speed by reducing throttle on very short final to say 10k over Vs. As you round out/flare you will shed energy very fast as you simultaneously chop the throttle - you should be less than 3' *AGL. The plane will settle firmly onto the mains in a _very_ high nose angle but that's what you want -all the weight on the mains and no energy left. Lots of drag is here to slow you down: The wing really is deeply stalled. Nose super high adding fuse drag Lots of elevator trying to keep nose wheel off (the elevator should end up all the way back -adding even more drag) With all weight on the mains make those wheels squeal (but don't lock up)! The nose wheel only touches when YOU can't keep it off but don't relax that back elevator -think drag and weight on the mains. When you do this a few times you will realize that all sorts of new places are potential landing spots. If you are not comfortable with the backside of the power curve practice this type of descent at altitude and note the VSI. Gradually get lower as you get used to the method and the way your baby responds to throttle. I'm not an instructor so I could be talking rubbish (perhaps I'm not a real pilot ;-) One last thing: I learnt from tail dragging -the landing is NOT over 'til the plane is stopped. YMMV You need to STFU, Mr. Flight Sim King with no certification. -- You are clearly below average intelligence because you presume I'm not a qualified pilot. A real pilot would know that my advice doesn't come from simming. Cheers |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 26, 5:53*am, " wrote:
On Nov 25, 9:54*am, a wrote: On Nov 25, 8:26*am, " wrote: On Nov 25, 3:31*am, "Flaps_50!" wrote: AlI can say is that tail dragging turned my landings from average into much better than that. I recommend it! You cannot compare flight simulation landings with landing a plane in the outside world. *I have done both and speak from experience. Please preface statements like the above with such caveats as I don't think A is aware you are not talking from experience of flying a real plane nor hold a PPL. I have no way of knowing the credentials of anyone who posts here, but we should be intelligent enough to decide if suggestions make sense to us, even if coming from non-pilots. There are zip lock bags in my airplane because they are great for people who unexpectedly get motion sick, and that idea came from a pax who carried some of those, just in case. Suggestions are one thing as he has been giving all along Saying that he has landed a tail dragger is another or that his landings have improved without full disclosure is a diservice to those who may not "know the full story" (readers coming to here for the first time). :-) *How can he recommend something he has never done in real life? *One shoe doesn't fit all. Well I think that makes me a more experienced pilot that you 'cos I do fly a real aerobatic tail dragger and my landing are really quite good -even tho' I do say so myself (but I still think there's room for improvement). Listen to my advice -there's real world knowledge there. Cheers |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS - Video
"Flaps_50!" wrote You are clearly below average intelligence because you presume I'm not a qualified pilot. A real pilot would know that my advice doesn't come from simming. What you have written here has made it painfully obvious that you are not a real qualified pilot. Quit trying to impress everyone, and fess up. Better yet, just move on to some other group. -- Jim in NC |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 26, 2:10*am, "Flaps_50!" wrote:
Well I think that makes me a more experienced pilot that you 'cos I do fly a real aerobatic tail dragger and my landing are really quite good -even tho' I do say so myself (but I still think there's room for improvement). *Listen to my advice -there's real world knowledge there. I'll call you on this. Why don't you post some of your real world landings outside a desktop computer so we can give you our analysis since you think you have room for improvement. Any $50 digital camera will do the trick and You Tube offers free hosting. |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS - Video
Jeffrey Bloss wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:00:08 -0800 (PST), Flaps_50! wrote: I'm not an instructor so I could be talking rubbish (perhaps I'm not a real pilot ;-) One last thing: I learnt from tail dragging -the landing is NOT over 'til the plane is stopped. YMMV You need to STFU, Mr. Flight Sim King with no certification. -- You are clearly below average intelligence because you presume I'm not a qualified pilot. A real pilot would know that my advice doesn't come from simming. Cheer Here's the way this works. When you post, you expose yourself. Please stop exposing yourself. You're so exposed I afear that you will die from it. Now toddle on back to your joystick and up up and away, FX King! |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 26, 10:55*pm, "Morgans" wrote:
"Flaps_50!" wrote You are clearly below average intelligence because you presume I'm not a qualified pilot. A real pilot would know that my advice doesn't come from simming. What you have written here has made it painfully obvious that you are not a real qualified pilot. *Quit trying to impress everyone, and fess up. You ARE AN IDIOT. Cheers |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 27, 2:50*am, " wrote:
On Nov 26, 2:10*am, "Flaps_50!" wrote: Well I think that makes me a more experienced pilot that you 'cos I do fly a real aerobatic tail dragger and my landing are really quite good -even tho' I do say so myself (but I still think there's room for improvement). *Listen to my advice -there's real world knowledge there. I'll call you on this. Why don't you post some of your real world landings outside a desktop computer so we can give you our analysis since you think you have room for improvement. *Any $50 digital camera will do the trick and You Tube offers free hosting. I'll think about it, but my ego doesn't reside in posting videos. As for analysis of my short field I have nothing to learn form you, quite the opposite really. Can you tell us all why a 3000' sealed runway is a short field for a sundowner? Cheers |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 27, 6:49*am, Jeffrey Bloss wrote:
On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 00:00:08 -0800 (PST), Flaps_50! wrote: I'm not an instructor so I could be talking rubbish (perhaps I'm not a real pilot ;-) One last thing: I learnt from tail dragging -the landing is NOT over 'til the plane is stopped. YMMV You need to STFU, Mr. Flight Sim King with no certification. -- You are clearly below average intelligence because you presume I'm not a qualified pilot. A real pilot would know that my advice doesn't come from simming. Cheer Here's the way this works. When you post, you expose yourself. You're so exposed I afear that you will die from it. Now toddle on back to your joystick and up up and away, FX King! -- Troll troll troll your boat fat boy. Cheers |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS -Video
On Nov 27, 2:27*am, "Flaps_50!" wrote:
I'll think about it, but my ego doesn't reside in posting videos. You are a bunch of horse**** now. Your ego is bigger then the dayem Good Year blimp If your ego is big enough to make comments on my short field landings, then you should be good enough to demonstrate to the readership your skills. After all you said. Well I think that makes me a more experienced pilot that you 'cos I do fly a real aerobatic tail dragger and my landing are really quite good even tho' I do say so myself Put up or shut up. Show me where the rubber meets the road. Otherwise you really don't know, and YOU DON'T fly a real plane, do you? Your landings are not quite good since you don't land a real airplane. As for analysis of my short field I have nothing to learn form you, quite the opposite really. Can you tell us all why a *3000' sealed runway is a short field for a sundowner? AS I posted in RAS Because I don't need to. What difference does it make whether I land it in 2000 feet or 3000 feet on a 4444 foot runway? What difference does it make when 99.9 percent of my airports I fly to have 4000 foot or longer runways on routine cross country flights. The entire runway in front of me is mine until I clear it. Anybody behind me will just have to go around if I am not cleared it. I don't need to be a hero for anybody behind me in preventing a go around. This privilege is backed by FARS / AIM even at airports with LAHSO operations where I don't have to accept them. Most importantly, why should I push the safety envelope THAT I DETERMINE as PIC, The aircraft manufacturer determines the aircraft minimums, NOT THE PIC's minimums. You apparently fail to understand the human nature of flying so you do have LOTS TO LEARN FROM ME. As an example, everybody can swing at a 90 mph fast ball, but not everybody will hit the ball. Same with landing an airplane. Everybody can try to shoe horn a plane into the minimums that the manufacturer determines but not everybody can do it. I determine as PIC what is safe, not the manufacturer. There is no room for error when you final approach speed is faster then most highway speeds. If you think MSFX simulates short field landings, you are sadly mistaken. You apparently haven't been near a tree in a real plane to understand exactly what I am talking about. You can't die from coming up short in MSFX, you can in a real plane. What part of that do you seem not to understand? |
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Three take offs = three landings at Newton MS and Madison MS - Video
"Flaps_50!" wrote You ARE AN IDIOT. Really good comeback. You are a troll, a non-pilot, and a nusance in this newsgroup. Go play somewhere else. -- Jim in NC |
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