Uploading CAI file from Cam 20 to OLC

I am a firm supporter of the OLC; L wrote an article for my club
newsletter and gave a presentation at our monthly meeting using a
modification of Reiner's 2005 SSA OLC one.

However, I'm having a dickens of a time uploading my flight traces to
the OLC.
Use a Cambridge GPS Model 20 and L-NAV.
Extract *.cai file from GPS.
Use the protocol suggested by OLC to convert and tag the traces.
Can't get *.igc file accepted by OLC using either SeeYou or OLC Flight
Claim methods.
The OLC helper has been able to get my traces on OLC. But, he and I
would rather spend the time doing more fun things!
And, I'm not alone out here in Ephrata. I watch my soaring buddies
with Cam 20 GPS go through the same frustration. None of us are
computer geeks, but we are far from newbies (my first home "PC" was a
Timex 1000). My buddies are engineers with lots of computer "hands on"
experience.
Anyone having better success and would share their step by step method?
Could send to me by e-mail unless others are having the same problem.

Open *.CAI file with SeeYou. Optimize (Edit-Optiize or Ctrl+L) flight.
Click submit button. Make sure "automaticly upload flight" is checked in
submit dialog. Click submit button.

Thats it.

Just make sure you open the *.cai file directly with SeYou. It will do
the rest.




Roy Clark, B6 wrote:
I am a firm supporter of the OLC; L wrote an article for my club
newsletter and gave a presentation at our monthly meeting using a
modification of Reiner's 2005 SSA OLC one.

However, I'm having a dickens of a time uploading my flight traces to
the OLC.
Use a Cambridge GPS Model 20 and L-NAV.
Extract *.cai file from GPS.
Use the protocol suggested by OLC to convert and tag the traces.
Can't get *.igc file accepted by OLC using either SeeYou or OLC Flight
Claim methods.
The OLC helper has been able to get my traces on OLC. But, he and I
would rather spend the time doing more fun things!
And, I'm not alone out here in Ephrata. I watch my soaring buddies
with Cam 20 GPS go through the same frustration. None of us are
computer geeks, but we are far from newbies (my first home "PC" was a
Timex 1000). My buddies are engineers with lots of computer "hands on"
experience.
Anyone having better success and would share their step by step method?
Could send to me by e-mail unless others are having the same problem.

Thanks.



David Leonard wrote:
Open *.CAI file with SeeYou. Optimize (Edit-Optiize or Ctrl+L)
flight.
Click submit button. Make sure "automaticly upload flight" is checked
in
submit dialog. Click submit button.

Thats it.

Just make sure you open the *.cai file directly with SeYou. It will
do
the rest.

"Roy Clark, B6" wrote in message
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I am a firm supporter of the OLC; L wrote an article for my club
newsletter and gave a presentation at our monthly meeting using a
modification of Reiner's 2005 SSA OLC one.

However, I'm having a dickens of a time uploading my flight traces to
the OLC.
Use a Cambridge GPS Model 20 and L-NAV.
Extract *.cai file from GPS.

How are you "extracting" the file from the logger? It may be corrupted that
way. If you are using the first version of Connect Me it requires it to be
downloaded twice. They have corrected that but if you haven't gotten the
update then it could still be a problem.

I download flights from my Model 25 (same thing just external antenna) with
an Ipaq running Connect Me, place it in on a SD card, upload it via a card
reader into my PC, use See You 3.1 to analyze it and optimize it then send
it to OLC with no problems on the uploading end.

OLC however is very sensitive to what most would consider minor errors e.g.
wrong birthdate, engine running if you didn't check "pure glider", missing
data if you turned the logger on then off briefly before takeoff, misspelled
name to name a few. They nicely list all the errors in red at the bottom of
the attempted upload so that you have a chance to correct them. What errors
are you seeing there?

Casey Lenox
KC
Phoenix

Don't use Connect Me or Ipaq.

Have been using the method described in FAQ on the OLC.

Roy Clark, B6 wrote:
Don't use Connect Me or Ipaq.

Have been using the method described in FAQ on the OLC.


So have you had any success yet?

Just tried my first submission, and finally got it to work
(using a CAI model 20). Two minor hitches, had a yellow V
indication which took a full day to turn green, and still
have an ENL error showing, even though I declared pure glider.

Method was to use SeeYou to download the trace, and prepare the
..olc file. Then used the cai2igc utility to create a new igc
file, and went to the web site and manually uploaded the new
files. The "submit to" boxes in SeeYou were empty, so couldn't
try that. Next time I'll try the more automated ways available.

People haven't been mentioning what software versions they've
been using, which could be important. I used SeeYou 2.82, with
the OLC-USA patch installed. Firmware in the model 20 was upgraded
to 6.0.

-Dave

People haven't been mentioning what software versions they've
been using, which could be important. I used SeeYou 2.82, with
the OLC-USA patch installed.
-Dave

Anyone else having a problem with the "OLC Patch"? I dowloaded from
the SeeYou site, but the SeeYou still tries to upload to the old URL as
far as I can tell (ie. ~/2004). If this would work (ie. directly
submitting from SeeYou), it looks like by far the lowest hassle factor.


P3

The most recent OLC patch I know of adds the US region support.

In any case, SeeYou 3.1 does the automatic upload for me just fine.

-Tom

I'm having the same problem uploading a pair of log files from a
friend's old Model 20. I've tried uploading "by hand" via the OLC
flight claim page, and massaging all of the data fields by hand. I've
tried uploading with SeeYou 3.1, but when the OLC flight claim page
comes up, it has different coordinates for the turnpoints than SeeYou
selected. When I change those coordinates to match what SeeYou came up
with, it comes back with a message saying "No valid fixes after end of
flight" or something similar. I am a computer programmer by trade, and
I manage a couple of web sites, so I like to think there isn't operator
error involved here.

The only thing I can find that might be causing the trouble is that in
each log file, there are about a half dozen "B" records with east
longitudes instead of west. I think that might be confusing the server
software. But when I edit the file and remove or modify those records,
OLC complains about something else ...

-ted/2NO

When I go through all the proper (manual) procedures for the 7 May
flight at the OLC web page and click on "Check entry", the first time
OLC crunches all the data it comes back with *no*error*messages* and
all 7 flight points (start/1/2/3/4/5/finish) in green.

It also has the 1st and 3d waypoints in the eastern hemisphere and a
total flight distance of 42263.26 km. Now that's a heck of a flight!!!

Even though this page has no error messages, it still does not have a
"Claim Flight" button.

When I then modify the points to exactly match what SeeYou reports, the
distance becomes correct, but the 4th, 5th, and finish points are no
longer labeled in green, and the following error messages are reported:

"The finish time is after the end of the flight without propulsion.
This is not allowed. Please adjust the finish time or the time of the
end of the flight without propulsion.
Valid waypoints reached in the present flight trace (IGC-file) are
printed in green.
The flight claim is complete only when all waypoints are printed in
green.
Suggestions will be made by the server only if the flight trace
approaches a declared waypoint to no more than 2.5km.
There is no fix in the IGC-file with your finish time. "

.... which makes no sense at all.

As a software engineer I admire what the OLC team has done, but as a
user, I sure hope they fix this, or tell me how I can get around it!

-ted/2NO