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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: Date: 11/19/03 5:19 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: Then instead of being obtuse, answer my questions about the real planes. Oh wait, none of your posts actually contain any facts do they? Maybe you don't know......... I don;t know much. Just a few lessons learned over the Rhine Valley in 1944 and 1945. BTW, I didn't see you there so maybe you are the one who doesn't know much about the reality of flying for sure. That is why you are confused about MSFS and real flying. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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ArtKramr wrote in message ... A valid training aid yes. But a very limited one that is never a substitute for actually flying. White knuckles? Never. But I think that many here have never experienced white knuckles or anything close.White knuckles is what you get 10,000 feet over the Ruhr valley with a sky full of 88's. Not on a PC. I can't say whether that would give me white knuckles or not, but it'd probably give me brown underwear... |
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I enjoy a WWII sim called "Forgotten Battles" They have modeled most of the Russian, American, British and German combat aircraft. They left out the B-26. ;-) Check out http://www.il2sturmovik.com/ and the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim newsgroup. "Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message ... I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. Regards... |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Anonymous" Date: 11/19/03 5:42 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: ArtKramr wrote in message ... A valid training aid yes. But a very limited one that is never a substitute for actually flying. White knuckles? Never. But I think that many here have never experienced white knuckles or anything close.White knuckles is what you get 10,000 feet over the Ruhr valley with a sky full of 88's. Not on a PC. I can't say whether that would give me white knuckles or not, but it'd probably give me brown underwear... I would say plenty of both. And never to be forgotten memories. That was flying. PC's don't quite cut it in those terms.. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: PC flight simulators
From: "Dave" Date: 11/19/03 5:48 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: I enjoy a WWII sim called "Forgotten Battles" They have modeled most of the Russian, American, British and German combat aircraft. They left out the B-26. ;-) Check out http://www.il2sturmovik.com/ and the comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.flight-sim newsgroup. "Bjørnar Bolsøy" wrote in message ... I was wondering if anyone in this NG play simulators? If so, which one? What's the best out there, currently. Regards... Only REAL MEN flew the B-26. And only the B-26 could scare the **** out of the elephant.(grin) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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(ArtKramr) wrote in
: Subject: PC flight simulators From: Date: 11/19/03 4:48 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: bpfoq6$1q5c$1@newsreader02 I know the sim, I'm hoping to get the reality here......... Never the twain shall meet on a PC. I think we all get that you think that PC sims are trash by this point. Why do you keep going on about it? The original poster asked which sims were fun to play, not which sims would give him a completely accurate recreation of a bomb run over Schweinfurt with no deviations from reality whatsoever. It doesn't really *matter* if they teach me everything I'd need to know about flying a P-51 or an XB-70. Nobody's ever going to let me near any military aircraft since my vision is between 20/600 and 20/800. Nor am I interested and rich enough to purchase an actual military simulator and hire several servants to run and maintain it for me. By the same token, I don't really have the interest to justify the time and money getting into actual aviation would cost, and I'm pretty sure I'd just end up puking all over the airplane anytime something remotely aerobatic happened anyway (ah haaaaates fallin', ah do). It just doesn't matter whether or not a pc sim is a terribly accurate recreation of, say, a Hellcat mission or a Tomcat landing. PC sims are all I'll ever get. Why not let people answer questions about which ones are relatively less unrealistic unmolested? Why keep ****ing in my wheaties? (if you can find a copy, _Stunt Island_ from the early 90's is a blast, if really really outdated (320x200 graphics anyone?) It's *very* cartoony, but they have you landing on moving trains and such, and you can construct your own stunts -- I was always partial to landing the F-117 on the aircraft carrier) -- Jim Battista A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man. |
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Seraphim wrote:
(ArtKramr) wrote in : Subject: PC flight simulators From: "Jim Baker" Date: 11/16/03 8:14 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: AND, I play with the Microsoft Flight Sim sometimes just for the hell of it. Play is right That's what I said in the first place. If you look carefully, the person that you were responding to said it too (he specificlly said "play simulators"), you just decided to make an issue of it. Would someone who was hopeing to use a simulator to learn how to fly would describe it as "play"? Your post seemed to me to be more about how cool you are, not anything haveing to do with computer games. Nah...he's just trolling again...trying to get a rise out of someone so he can 'slap that puppy down'...act your age Art, everyone's watching... -- -Gord. |
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