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Old March 11th 04, 05:20 AM
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Nice R&D opertunity. A little verification goes a long way.


Please define "opertunity."



http://www.aquarionics.com/journal/2...the_unmissed_o

pertunity


No definition there.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Old March 11th 04, 05:28 AM
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"AllanStern" wrote

CNN is reporting this morning that the US Mil is about to deploy U-2 spy
planes, JSTARS acft, and Rivet Joint RC-135s to search for bin Laden. They
claim that the US is going to maintain round-the-clock surveillance/search to
locate him. They say the acft will be controlling some RPVs in the search.


E-3, E-8, RC-135 are really the A-Team in Command, Control, and Communications.

The problem is, that none of them work worth a **** in mountainous terrain.

If you are going to have an air to ground war, then you really need to have the
A-Team there for the rack and stack of finding and killing targets while managing
tankers, bombers, attack assets, etc. Having seen airborne radar in action in Pakistan,
I can tell you that it will be tough work to associate all the noise and dead spots.


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Old March 11th 04, 06:00 AM
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"AllanStern" wrote

CNN is reporting this morning that the US Mil is about to deploy

U-2 spy
planes, JSTARS acft, and Rivet Joint RC-135s to search for bin Laden.

They
claim that the US is going to maintain round-the-clock

surveillance/search to
locate him. They say the acft will be controlling some RPVs in the

search.

E-3, E-8, RC-135 are really the A-Team in Command, Control, and

Communications.

The problem is, that none of them work worth a **** in mountainous

terrain.

If you are going to have an air to ground war, then you really need to

have the
A-Team there for the rack and stack of finding and killing targets while

managing
tankers, bombers, attack assets, etc. Having seen airborne radar in

action in Pakistan,
I can tell you that it will be tough work to associate all the noise and

dead spots.

I suspect you are right about the E-8, but not-so-right about the RC-135 and
U-2; the first has no real use for ground mapping radar and does not have
such a capability, while the second is far from being limited to using just
SLAR. The RC-135 is undoubtedly there to keep OBL from using any handy
radios, cell phones, and the like; the U-2 can also do some of that, and
provide photo coverage with realtime feeds to users and analysts.

Brooks




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Old March 11th 04, 06:19 AM
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I suspect you are right about the E-8, but not-so-right about the RC-135 and
U-2; the first has no real use for ground mapping radar and does not have
such a capability, while the second is far from being limited to using just
SLAR. The RC-135 is undoubtedly there to keep OBL from using any handy
radios, cell phones, and the like; the U-2 can also do some of that, and
provide photo coverage with realtime feeds to users and analysts.


I don't know much about the RC, other than the one that nearly mounted us as
we were in formation for a tanker during pre-contact at a Green Flag :-) One
of the problems with triangulation (even the super-duper kind) in the mountains
is what is called multi-path. Search and rescue have a lot of experience with
this bad effect, and that's with people who *want* to be found.

It's going to be a tough job, but you need that aerial team, to compliment the
gomers sweeping the grass, and running their dogs.


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Old March 11th 04, 06:20 AM
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"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "Tarver Engineering"



"B2431" wrote in message
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From: "Tarver Engineering"


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Nice R&D opertunity. A little verification goes a long way.


Please define "opertunity."



http://www.aquarionics.com/journal/2...the_unmissed_o

pertunity


No definition there.


Same as any of your google searched up archive trolls, Dan.


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Old March 12th 04, 04:44 AM
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Bob McKellar, expecting a late October capture

Whats about early summer?
Specially after a couple of high profile terror acts voters will remember the
"capture" of OBL in November.

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Old March 12th 04, 05:05 AM
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Denyav wrote:

Bob McKellar, expecting a late October capture


Whats about early summer?
Specially after a couple of high profile terror acts voters will remember the
"capture" of OBL in November.


Damn, a guy makes one little smartass remark, just a joke, and wakes up in a post
with Denyav.

I feel so dirty!

Bob McKellar

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Old March 12th 04, 03:24 PM
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Bob McKellar wrote:


Denyav wrote:


Bob McKellar, expecting a late October capture


Whats about early summer?
Specially after a couple of high profile terror acts voters will remember the
"capture" of OBL in November.



Damn, a guy makes one little smartass remark, just a joke, and wakes up in a post
with Denyav.

I feel so dirty!


Well...*my* authority has it that OBL has *already* been
captured!

Yup! Gee Dubya is simply waiting for a week or so before
voting day to spring the news. I think the master of
Islamic-based terror is being held where they filmed the
moon landing.

Kerry might just as well give his concession speech now.


SMH

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Old March 12th 04, 09:22 PM
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On Fri, 12 Mar 2004 09:24:54 -0500, Stephen Harding
wrote:

Bob McKellar wrote:


Denyav wrote:


Bob McKellar, expecting a late October capture

Whats about early summer?
Specially after a couple of high profile terror acts voters will remember the
"capture" of OBL in November.



Damn, a guy makes one little smartass remark, just a joke, and wakes up in a post
with Denyav.

I feel so dirty!


Well...*my* authority has it that OBL has *already* been
captured!

Yup! Gee Dubya is simply waiting for a week or so before
voting day to spring the news. I think the master of
Islamic-based terror is being held where they filmed the
moon landing.

Kerry might just as well give his concession speech now.


He can't - he's being held in the next cell, helpless while his clone
(made from sooper sekrit UFO technology that the Raelians stole from
the WW2 Germans) is going to spout meanlingless gibberish for the rest
of the campaign......or is that Bush who's been cloned into an idiot?

:-)
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Peter Kemp

Life is short - drink faster
 




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