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Old March 8th 04, 08:46 PM
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
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The Black Monk quoted from:

Malaysia's Arms Purchases Raise Eyebrows
by BARADAN KUPPUSAMY
KUALA LUMPUR —
.............................

Malaysia was happy too — to get a squadron of advanced Sukhoi MK30
fighter jets, paying 270 million dollars of the 900 million Sukhoi
deal in palm oil — the country's leading export.

It looks like russia is about to start up, or increase it soap
production
I wonder if it will be hard laundry soap, for its dirty laundry,
or toilet soap,
or soft soap ?

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Rostyk

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Old March 9th 04, 12:14 AM
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote:

The Black Monk quoted from:

Malaysia's Arms Purchases Raise Eyebrows
by BARADAN KUPPUSAMY
KUALA LUMPUR —
.............................

Malaysia was happy too — to get a squadron of advanced Sukhoi MK30
fighter jets, paying 270 million dollars of the 900 million Sukhoi
deal in palm oil — the country's leading export.

It looks like russia is about to start up, or increase it soap
production
I wonder if it will be hard laundry soap, for its dirty laundry,
or toilet soap,
or soft soap ?


Sounds good to me! I hear gold production will be going up as well!

Grantland
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Old March 8th 04, 08:23 PM
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
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Stinky Pete wrote:

Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.

"ville terminale" wrote in message
om...

i know US jet is much better. how many of best russian jets could one
US jet take on at once? i'll bet the best US jet can shoot down at
least 5 of russia's best jets before going down.


Looks like Stinky has seriously taken the bait 8-)
Get ready for a replay of 'my jet is better than our jet ...'
OR retrieve your Archives and join the party 8-)
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Old March 9th 04, 05:10 AM
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"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
et...
Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.


i can buy several new migs for the price of one stealth fighter.


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Old March 9th 04, 10:21 AM
Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj
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Captain! wrote:

"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
et...

Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.



i can buy several new migs for the price of one stealth fighter.


Can YOU really buy either 8-) ??

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Old March 9th 04, 11:57 AM
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message
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Captain! wrote:

"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
et...

Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the

Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've

probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.



i can buy several new migs for the price of one stealth fighter.


Can YOU really buy either 8-) ??


I think he was talking about plastic models that you glue together and
paint. His mom musta took 'im to the toy store and got him all excited.


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Old March 11th 04, 07:51 AM
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"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message
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Captain! wrote:

"Stinky Pete" wrote in message
et...

Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the

Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've

probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.



i can buy several new migs for the price of one stealth fighter.


Can YOU really buy either 8-) ??


yes. i have several now, warming up in the batcave.


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Old March 11th 04, 11:23 AM
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"Captain!" wrote in message
news:KTU3c.196546$Hy3.63459@edtnps89...

"Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" wrote in message
. ..
Captain! wrote:

"Stinky Pete" wrote in

message
et...

Well...it's been a romp for US jets pretty much always.

Just look at the record of Russki jets in the first Gulf War, the

Balkans,
Libya and Israel vs. Syria in the Bekaa valley.

This should give you some idea why jets like the Gripen, Eurofighter

and
Rafale can seem to sell for diddly. In the past 10 years, they've

probably
sold for export 20 aircraft between the three of them. Germany came

real
close to bailing out of the Eurofighter program. If it wasn't for

India,
Russia wouldn't sell anything either.



i can buy several new migs for the price of one stealth fighter.


Can YOU really buy either 8-) ??


yes. i have several now, warming up in the batcave.



....making your whole house smell of JP-4?


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Old March 9th 04, 05:27 AM
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The question is training method and quality of the pilots. Are they able to
work independently? Tied to ground controllers? Well trained on their planes
and equipment? What weapons are on the planes? Good radars and missiles or
"export versions?" And what generation are the respective planes?

If it is an out and out fight I go with F-22A. Best balance. I would want
the pilot to be the best, though. One of the deadliest North Vietnamese
aces, Col. Tomb, flew a MiG-17.

DEP


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Old March 8th 04, 03:19 PM
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In article ,
ville terminale wrote:
i know US jet is much better. how many of best russian jets could one
US jet take on at once? i'll bet the best US jet can shoot down at
least 5 of russia's best jets before going down.


The quality of the pilot is much more important than the quality
of the fighter. The nature of the engagement is also more important
than the quality of the fighter. It may well make sense to say that
one fighter is better than another, but quantifying it with
expected loss ratios is pointless.

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David H. Thornley | If you want my opinion, ask.
| If you don't, flee.
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