Get Rid Of Warbirds At Oshkosh

"RST Engineering" wrote in message news:AVezg.34

Warbirds, you are not welcome at Oshkosh.

Jim

Never been there, possibly never will. But I suspect if the EAA has to
choose between warbirds and Jim -- well, you might just have some extra time
on your hands next summer. :-)

"Canal builder" wrote in message
...
| wrote:
|
|
| Totalitarian states do not permit experimental aviation.
|
| Not true. The German Nazi regime of the 1930s loved experimental
aviation
| (and experimental rocketry), they even gave financial support. A lot
of the
| amateur designers and pilots then went on to play a big part in the
Second
| World War. The contemporary British government tried everything it
could to
| stop amateurs getting into the air.
|
| As a result, surviving the Battle of Britain (1940) was as much a
matter of
| luck as judgment. Later on we had to put up with bombs mysteriously
falling
| out of the sky (the V2 long range rocket). If the war in Europe had
gone on
| much longer the first man in space would have been a German piloting a
| two-stage missile to New York.
|
| BTW this difference in attitude between British and German governments
| continues to this day. This explains why German radio hams are putting
| together a Mars lander, and we can't fly a suitably-equipped Lancair
in IFR.
|

I read where the Germans emphasized sailplanes and their power planes
didn't carry much fuel.

--
Jarhead




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The T-6 were performing a missing man formation for the Memorial wall
service that EAA does to remember the pilots that have gone west....


Ps. just got back and boy am I burnt and tired.

Dave Zera
Co-Chair
Safety/ Flight line
AirVenture
"flyer" wrote in message
ups.com...
I'd vote to get rid of the Warbirds too. This year [this morning in
fact] a small window opened in the extreme weather experienced this
year as we were trying to depart. As we lined up on the taxi way,
someone decided it would be a great time for some t6s to preform some
sort of 'airshow'. We waited and waited with engines running thinking
we would be going soon. Twenty minutes later, some of us were let out
of the penalty box.

After 20 minutes of idle, then applying take off power among aircraft
with very different speeds [I was in my Lancair] this is NO time for a
hic up!

There is a place for this warbird thing but the timing today was way
out of line. I've already written EAA Hwq stating my displeasure.

Earl Schroeder

"Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:E1fzg.84679$ZW3.47978@dukeread04...
I like warbirds, an airshow without warbirds is like no
airshow at all.

I don't go to airshows that don't feature warbirds.

-c

"Dan" wrote in message
ups.com...
I would support the elimination of the non-jet powered warbirds. Being
one of the (apparently) rare non-career GA pilots under 30, I certainly
can't relate to them at all.

Meanwhile, I can't relate to Lancairs, Cirrus, etc.

If there are no warbirds, the airshow doesn't get my money but if I see a
B-17 or a Spitfire beyond the fence, I'm there. Fascinating how people's
preferences vary so much.

-c

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
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RST,

Warbirds, you are not welcome at Oshkosh.


Great idea. GA is small enough to be threatened from all sides, so we
should definitely start the in-fighting and make it even smaller by
ourselves. Yep. Sounds great. For the airlines.

Who wants warbirds?! Warbirds aren't relevant anymore. Nobody cares
about warbirds. That's why everybody must go to Chino's Planes of Fame, the
Boeing Museum of Flight, the McMinnville Air Museum, Duxford, etc to look at
the Citations and Pipers parked over in the GA side...

It ain't a Lancaster or a Flying Fortress they want to see. It's the new
Cessna....

-c
(If I want to look at a bunch of people's private airplanes, I'll save my
money and hang out at the FBO.)

In article ,
Thomas Borchert wrote:

Bob,

From this post and others, sounds like everyone would be better served
to keep stupid pilots from Oshkosh.


And it sounds like everyone posting is not part of that group gd&r.

Well, for sure and for certain, it can't be me, I've never been to OSH.

--
Bob Noel
Looking for a sig the
lawyers will hate

In article ,
"John Kunkel" wrote:

Looks like Pope Paul has been replaced by Lord jim.

That has potential!

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message ...
:
: "Jim Macklin" wrote in message
: news:E1fzg.84679$ZW3.47978@dukeread04...
: I like warbirds, an airshow without warbirds is like no
: airshow at all.
:
: And the money for the fuel they receive comes from the Warbirds division not
: from the EAA as some believe.
:
:

Warbirds division of what? Who is paying for the gas?

Amen.

"RST Engineering" wrote in message
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I'm prejudiced. Of course I'm prejudiced. In 5000+ flight hours, I've
never come as close to a midair as I did at Oshkosh 1999. Oshkosh Tower:
"BlueOnBlue Cessna, number three for runway 27. Ercoupe put it on the
numbers. Flight of three T6s, cross over runway 27, right downwind for
runway 27, caution the Cessna at the gravel pit."

(Warbird flight leader) "OK fellers, let's show them what a warbird
arrival is like."

The Cessna is looking, looking, and turns downwind. The copilot screams,
"Oh, my God " and the pilot turns hard left, only to see two wings perhaps
fifty feet below. Tower tells warbirds that they nearly had a midair with
a Cessna. Warbird flight leader, "Then tell tell the little b@$+@rd to
get out of our way."

I've about had it with the arrogant warbird *******s. The only reason that
there are warbirds at Oshkosh is that Pope Paul flew a warbird and wanted
to invite his cronies.

Pope Paul is out to pasture. Nobody else at Oshkosh gets gas money except
the warbirds. Guess where the gas money is coming from? Your inflated
entry ticket prices. You are paying for those stupid idiots to aggrandize
World War II, which damned few of us can relate to.

So this afternoon, one of the WWII warbird people who has more money than
good sense, and who never learned how to clear the taxiway in front of his
aircraft, killed one of our own. There has to be some sort of payback for
this sort of stupidity.

Warbirds, you are not welcome at Oshkosh.

Jim