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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
The thread "Any Spins Lately" made me wonder. If an instructor does
not teach spin recovery, is it worthwhile to find someone that teaches spin recovery and take a few lessons before the first solo. If not, then when would be a good time to do upset and spin recovery training. Before my first cross country solo or after I get my certificate. In my case my instructor is close by, but does not do spin recovery training. I am quite happy with him and have no plans on switching. However, there is an aerobatics instructor about 60 miles away that I could use for spin training. |
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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
Sorry about the double post and getting it into the wrong group. I
meant for it to go into rec.aviation.student. On Sep 4, 9:21 pm, wrote: The thread "Any Spins Lately" made me wonder. If an instructor does not teach spin recovery, is it worthwhile to find someone that teaches spin recovery and take a few lessons before the first solo. If not, then when would be a good time to do upset and spin recovery training. Before my first cross country solo or after I get my certificate. In my case my instructor is close by, but does not do spin recovery training. I am quite happy with him and have no plans on switching. However, there is an aerobatics instructor about 60 miles away that I could use for spin training. |
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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
On Sep 4, 11:08 pm, wrote:
Sorry about the double post and getting it into the wrong group. I meant for it to go into rec.aviation.student. On Sep 4, 9:21 pm, wrote: The thread "Any Spins Lately" made me wonder. If an instructor does not teach spin recovery, is it worthwhile to find someone that teaches spin recovery and take a few lessons before the first solo. If not, then when would be a good time to do upset and spin recovery training. Before my first cross country solo or after I get my certificate. In my case my instructor is close by, but does not do spin recovery training. I am quite happy with him and have no plans on switching. However, there is an aerobatics instructor about 60 miles away that I could use for spin training.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Javaguy Dudley gave you some good advice. Why not discuss it with your instructor? I certainly wouldn't object if you were my student. Not that it matters, but I found out about spins on my first solo back in the 50's when I got sloppy on a power on (departure stall) and ended up on my back entering a spin. Then I spent the better part of the hour doing spins over and over before I came back for the obligatory 5 take offs and landings (remember, this was over 50 years ago). when I got back in, my instructor asked where I'd been and what I'd done. when I told him I did some spins, he just said "OK" and that was it. That was in a J-5 Piper. Not a BFD then. It still isn't. Cheers Ol S&B |
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that it matters, but I found out about spins on my first solo back in the 50's when I got sloppy on a power on (departure stall) and ended up on my back entering a spin. Then I spent the better part of the Maybe I misunderstood you, but are you saying ended up in a departure stall and spin on your first solo? Are you sure you are alive? |
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Personally, I never soloed a student who hadn't had simple spin recovery.
You don't need to do prolonged spins unless you want to. Just a turn or two and recovery is fine. The idea is to become familiar with spin Got my first logbook out 2/28/1954 it states---- Stalls-P.Off-Coord.Rolls---- Demo. Spin----Forced Lndings.--- It was my second lesson 2:15 total time at end of lesson. Signed by A.C. Berry CFI 1081564 What a prince of an instructor. I soloed 2 months later :-) I find numerous other log entries mentioning spins in this first log, but nothing later on. Perhaps I need some refresher training. grin Cheers: Paul N1431A KPLU |
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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
Tri-Pacer wrote:
Personally, I never soloed a student who hadn't had simple spin recovery. You don't need to do prolonged spins unless you want to. Just a turn or two and recovery is fine. The idea is to become familiar with spin Got my first logbook out 2/28/1954 it states---- Stalls-P.Off-Coord.Rolls---- Demo. Spin----Forced Lndings.--- It was my second lesson 2:15 total time at end of lesson. Signed by A.C. Berry CFI 1081564 What a prince of an instructor. I soloed 2 months later :-) I find numerous other log entries mentioning spins in this first log, but nothing later on. Perhaps I need some refresher training. grin Cheers: Paul N1431A KPLU Don't feel bad Paul. I've been retired for quite a while now. Just imagine the refresher training I'D have to take :-)) -- Dudley Henriques |
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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
There is one whale of a difference between spin entry, or incipient spin and a developed spin. Yes, but on a first solo I would say it is a very serious event if you got into a power on stall/incipient spin situation. A power on stall on a first solo where you just do touch and goes means that it probably happened during takeoff close to the ground. Was just wondering how such a serious situation came about with no consequences. |
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Spin Recovery Training Before First Solo?
On Sep 6, 12:52 pm, wrote:
There is one whale of a difference between spin entry, or incipient spin and a developed spin. Yes, but on a first solo I would say it is a very serious event if you got into a power on stall/incipient spin situation. A power on stall on a first solo where you just do touch and goes means that it probably happened during takeoff close to the ground. Was just wondering how such a serious situation came about with no consequences. Girish Yes you misunderstood what I was saying. On my first solo (in the 50's) my instructor told me to go practice some airwork, then return for the take offs and landings. While I was practicing stalls is when I got into my first spin. To that point I had not done any...simply had read about them and followed the procedures. Then my curiosity got the best of me and I continued to do a number of spins before I came back in for my obligatory take off and landings. Seems like the training was quite a bit different back then? I've continued to teach stall/spin and highly encourage my students to get spin training no matter where it is. I'm heartened by some of the posts by older pilots who trained back when I did and are still active. I first got my CFI in 1967 and have been active ever since, and still am at 71 and do 70-80 hours a month of dual flight instruction in both airplanes and helicopters. Cheers Ol S&B |
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