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Rutan on Global Warming
Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff! |
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Rutan on Global Warming
"Mike Granby" wrote in message ... Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff! No, I didn't, so....got a link? |
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Rutan on Global Warming
On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:11:15 -0500, "scott" wrote in :
"Mike Granby" wrote in message ... Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff! No, I didn't, so....got a link? http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html https://twitter.com/stgarrity/status/3072354918 Marty -- Big-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. |
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Rutan on Global Warming
Slides here, but no audio, which was of course the best bit... http://www.slideshare.net/QuestSyste...anv5-read-only |
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Rutan on Global Warming
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote: On Mon, 3 Aug 2009 19:11:15 -0500, "scott" wrote in : "Mike Granby" wrote in message ... Anyone else see his Oshkosh tirade? Excellent stuff! No, I didn't, so....got a link? http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html "He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere." Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! He knows more than the scientists. Impressive! -- Dan "How can an idiot be a policeman? Answer me that!" -Chief Inspector Dreyfus |
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Rutan on Global Warming
"Dan Luke" wrote:
"Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote: http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html "He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere." Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! So which of his numbers is wrong? He knows more than the scientists. Impressive! "Locus ab auctoritate est infirmissimus" But here's his CV anyway: http://www.roycecarlton.com/speaker-...riculum-Vitae/ |
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Rutan on Global Warming
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . "Dan Luke" wrote: "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote: http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html "He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere." Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! So which of his numbers is wrong? Which of his numbers is relevant? He knows more than the scientists. Impressive! "Locus ab auctoritate est infirmissimus" I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest. Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself as a superior authority. Is he? -- Dan T182T at 4R4 |
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Rutan on Global Warming
Dan Luke wrote:
.... "He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere." Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! He knows more than the scientists. Impressive! Makes me wonder what kind of excellent composite aircraft the met researchers could create, if they put their minds to it! Brian W |
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Rutan on Global Warming
Dan Luke wrote:
I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest. Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself as a superior authority. Is he? Rutan is in agreement with many climate scientists. |
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Rutan on Global Warming
"Dan Luke" wrote:
"Jim Logajan" wrote in message .. . "Dan Luke" wrote: "Martin X. Moleski, SJ" wrote: http://www.airventure.org/news/2009/090731_rutan.html "He said data shows that concerns about global warming are false. "CO2 is plant food, not a pollutant," he said. "It's been 20 times as high as it now. If you have a 1.2 percent increase in cloud formation and precipitation, it offsets a 100 percent increase of CO2 in the atmosphere." Gosh, Burt Rutan is climate genius, too! So which of his numbers is wrong? Which of his numbers is relevant? I thought they were all relevant. Warmer air holds more moisture, therefore presumably more cloud formation and precipitation might occur. The odd thing is, if cloud formation and precipitation increase to "offset" an increase in CO2, I expect it would happen precisely because the atmosphere _had_ warmed. So his numbers are "merely" useful in determining the equilibrium point that the atmosphere might warm to - not that no warming would take place or that it isn't a concern. He knows more than the scientists. Impressive! "Locus ab auctoritate est infirmissimus" I would say the argument from cluelessness is weakest. Rutan charged that climate scientists have it wrong, setting himself as a superior authority. Is he? Why not comment respectfully on his alleged facts and line of argument rather than do the online equivalent of sneering? I don't agree with Rutan, but I'm not a climate scientist either. Are you? |
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