Desert Sailplane storage

I just moved from Virginia where my glider was stored
inside a hangar to El Paso, Texas. For the time being,
I will have to store it in my enclosed trailer outside.
I own a fiberglass Concept70 with metal flaps. Any
of you desert flyers have any tips, warnings, suggestions
about storage.
Charlie mcLaurin

Charles McLaurin wrote:
I just moved from Virginia where my glider was stored
inside a hangar to El Paso, Texas. For the time being,
I will have to store it in my enclosed trailer outside.
I own a fiberglass Concept70 with metal flaps. Any
of you desert flyers have any tips, warnings, suggestions
about storage.
Charlie mcLaurin
I know that the material used in most canopies is hygroscopic which is
one reason they tend to warp when a glider is moved from a dryer
climate to a more humid one. In fact, when I purchased a Ventus which
had spent most of its time in a dry climate and moved it to southern
Florida, it was not long (a few weeks) before I had to have assistance
closing the canopy before each flight. In addition, I have heard that
gelcoat is also hygroscopic and tends to absorb moisture which is one
reason gliders get heavier over time in humid climates.
I'm curious if anyone has advice on moving from a humid climate to a
dry one on the impact, if any, to a glider. I myself will be moving
next year to a dryer climate and I will be bringing my glider with me.
As to the post above, the one piece of advice I have consistently heard
is that fiberglass trailers do not block all the UV, therefore it is
prudent to coat the inside of the trailer with a UV blocking paint. Or
keep the glider in a hangar. A good solar vent is also cheap insurance
if you can reduce any potential condensation inside the trailer by
keeping the air moving.
Respectfully,

wrote:

As to the post above, the one piece of advice I have consistently heard
is that fiberglass trailers do not block all the UV, therefore it is
prudent to coat the inside of the trailer with a UV blocking paint. Or
keep the glider in a hangar.

I've heard this, too. Has anyone measured the UV transmission of a
glider trailer top? Since most plastic absorbs UV well, it's hard to
imagine much of the UV gets through the resin (and the paint, if that's
used). Glass also absorbs UV, so I'd expect the fiberglass to also
reduce the UV.

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Eric Greenwell
Washington State
USA

Has anyone measured the UV transmission of a
glider trailer top? Since most plastic absorbs UV well, it's hard to
imagine much of the UV gets through the resin (and the paint, if that's
used).

All new Cobra trailers are painted black inside and have been for some time for
just this reason. My 1999 one is black inside.


Robert Mudd

Robertmudd1u wrote:
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All new Cobra trailers are painted black inside and have been for
some time for
just this reason. My 1999 one is black inside.


Robert Mudd

One could also epoxy a layer of heavy duty houshold aluminum foil to
the inside of a fiber-glass shell trailer. If any UV radiation gets
through that, we have a much bigger problem on our hands. ;-)
Uli Neumann

GM wrote:
Robertmudd1u wrote:

snip
All new Cobra trailers are painted black inside and have been for

some time for

just this reason. My 1999 one is black inside.


Robert Mudd


One could also epoxy a layer of heavy duty houshold aluminum foil to
the inside of a fiber-glass shell trailer. If any UV radiation gets
through that, we have a much bigger problem on our hands. ;-)
Uli Neumann

I was thinking of using 3M adhesive spray for this. Then again, my ship
is 27 yo and has lived most of its life in a fiberglass trailer in
Colorado (5500-7500 ft msl), so what really is the point?

Shawn

I called around to some testing labs. I spoke first to a local company in the
Philly area, but the guy was not willing to do a freebie...Philly Attitude.

I then spoke with a company in Plainfield, IL that is willing to spend a few
minutes on the project!

If there is someone on this group that lives near Plainfield, IL (north of
Juliett) and is willing to drive their trailer for some testing, please
contact me directly for the company contact.

Or maybe someone out west could pursue this with a local company there.

With a little planning, we could test a few different materials. Go out on a
sunny day, get a reference reading, then test in the trailer. Perhaps also
make a small box on which we can put different covers such as tin foil, paint,
wood, etc and measure the UV ingress.

Let me know!

Jim Vincent
N483SZ
illspam

What about a Cobra owner contacting Herr Spindelberger
to ask what information he has on the subject?

John Galloway


At 16:30 28 December 2004, Jim Vincent wrote:
I called around to some testing labs. I spoke first
to a local company in the
Philly area, but the guy was not willing to do a freebie...Philly
Attitude.

I then spoke with a company in Plainfield, IL that
is willing to spend a few
minutes on the project!

If there is someone on this group that lives near Plainfield,
IL (north of
Juliett) and is willing to drive their trailer for
some testing, please
contact me directly for the company contact.

Or maybe someone out west could pursue this with a
local company there.

With a little planning, we could test a few different
materials. Go out on a
sunny day, get a reference reading, then test in the
trailer. Perhaps also
make a small box on which we can put different covers
such as tin foil, paint,
wood, etc and measure the UV ingress.

Let me know!

Jim Vincent
N483SZ