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Old May 14th 07, 11:57 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On 14 May 2007 14:04:26 -0700, "Robert M. Gary" wrote in
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Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth. Later they found out it
was real. Odd that these guys couldn't figure out how to get the lift
required of the ballons.


This site (and my recollection of watching the show) suggests that
they verified the essential details of the story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_MythBusters_special_episodes#Pilot_3_.E2.8 0.94_.22Larry.27s_Lawn_Chair_Balloon.2C_Poppy_Seed _Drug_Test.2C_Goldfinger.22

http://tinyurl.com/eoltr

There's no way their research department could not have known
the truth about Larry (RIP).

Marty
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Old May 15th 07, 12:59 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Robert M. Gary wrote:

Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth. Later they found out it
was real. Odd that these guys couldn't figure out how to get the lift
required of the ballons.


I'm not sure which "Mythbusters" you watch, but on the one I watch, they
were able to duplicate the feat. As I recall, the balloons carried one of
the guys up to the limit of the teather. He then shot the balloons until he
returned to earth. If you were expecting them to cut the chair loose from
the teather, you would have been disappointed, but otherwise, their
experiment confirmed that it was possible.

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Old May 15th 07, 01:40 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On Mon, 14 May 2007 23:59:26 GMT, "flynrider via AviationKB.com"
u32749@uwe wrote in 722fe18ebe14a@uwe:

Robert M. Gary wrote:

Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth. Later they found out it
was real. Odd that these guys couldn't figure out how to get the lift
required of the ballons.


I'm not sure which "Mythbusters" you watch, but on the one I watch, they
were able to duplicate the feat. As I recall, the balloons carried one of
the guys up to the limit of the teather. He then shot the balloons until he
returned to earth. If you were expecting them to cut the chair loose from
the teather, you would have been disappointed, but otherwise, their
experiment confirmed that it was possible.



http://www.tv.com/mythbusters/lawn-c...4/summary.html
Lawn Chair Balloon - Myth Confirmed
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Old May 15th 07, 12:03 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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flynrider via AviationKB.com wrote:


I'm not sure which "Mythbusters" you watch, but on the one I watch, they
were able to duplicate the feat. As I recall, the balloons carried one of
the guys up to the limit of the teather. He then shot the balloons until he
returned to earth.


I saw that too.

They had no doubt that it was possible. Adam was lifted quite handily.
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Old May 15th 07, 02:09 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
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Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth. Later they found out it
was real. Odd that these guys couldn't figure out how to get the lift
required of the ballons.


They failed to catapult a man from a manlift on one of their shows also, and
claimed to have disproven it. But I had a close friend who died that way.


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Old May 15th 07, 05:05 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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("Maxwell" wrote)
They failed to catapult a man from a manlift on one of their shows also,
and claimed to have disproven it. But I had a close friend who died that
way.



Um ....?????


Montblack


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Old May 15th 07, 05:44 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Montblack" wrote in message
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("Maxwell" wrote)
They failed to catapult a man from a manlift on one of their shows also,
and claimed to have disproven it. But I had a close friend who died that
way.



Um ....?????



Something like this: http://www.manliftengineering.com/, for example only.
This company was not involved, and it was a different brand.

The boom type, as opposed to the scissor type.

The myth was someone was trying to remove an engine from a car with one.
During the lift, the rope or cable broke from the engine, and threw the
operator over his house.

They couldn't duplicate it on their show, and considered it busted. But a
good friend of mine was trying to move one in a church that was under
construction. He accidentally drove it into an orchestra pit and was thrown
across the sanctuary.



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Old May 15th 07, 03:39 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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On May 14, 5:04 pm, "Robert M. Gary" wrote:

Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth.

Mr. Gary may have been thinking of another chair-in-the-air
experiment: the "Ming Dynasty Astronaut" segment, in which long-
suffering 'Buster' was dressed in a period costume, strapped to a
replica period rocket-chair and came out the worse for wear (for the
umpteenth time).

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Old May 15th 07, 10:11 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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"Robert M. Gary" wrote in message
ups.com...
On May 14, 1:30 pm, "d&tm" wrote:
"quietguy" wrote in message

ps.com... John Deakin

included this link in his latest "Pelican's Perch" column
on AvWeb.com:


http://home.earthlink.net/~quade/lawnchair.html


Despite the downbeat ending I find it inspirational: chase that
dream...


They made a movie in Australia about a guy doing the same thing. It

would
never win an Academy award or anything but it was a real fun movie,

about a
guy just chasing a dream.
It is called Danny's Deckchair, and if you are really inspired by what

Larry
Walters did then you would love this movie, although you might not get

some
of the Aussie lingo.
terry


Its funny, the TV show "Myth Busters" tried this one and found that it
did not work, they decided it must be a myth. Later they found out it
was real. Odd that these guys couldn't figure out how to get the lift
required of the ballons.


Calculating the lift is really not that difficult. And even if you cant
calculate it , how hard is it so simply measure the lift of a single balloon
on a scale to determine how many balloons are requried to lift the desired
payload. I remember doing this my 10 year old daughter using party balloons
and a kitchen scale. I recall we calculated about 5000 party balloons were
required to lift a small person.
terry


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Old May 15th 07, 03:13 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
Martin X. Moleski, SJ
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On Tue, 15 May 2007 19:11:04 +1000, "d&tm" wrote in :

Calculating the lift is really not that difficult. And even if you cant
calculate it , how hard is it so simply measure the lift of a single balloon
on a scale to determine how many balloons are requried to lift the desired
payload. I remember doing this my 10 year old daughter using party balloons
and a kitchen scale. I recall we calculated about 5000 party balloons were
required to lift a small person.


http://www.mythbustersfanclub.com/mb...nt/view/61/27/

Mythbusters miscalculated and didn't explain why their calculations
were off.

They thought 1700 would lift 40 pounds.

It took ~3500 to get the effect they sought.

One guess: they were conservative in filling the balloons
on the day of the test and didn't put as much gas in each
balloon (on average) as they did in the lab. Or there
was some weight in the tethers they used that they didn't
factor into their prediction.

Marty
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