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I just skimmed the article, but I don't recall it mentioning the air force
(the original spec USAF jacket was horsehide IIRC). OTOH the Navy (remember those guys that fly off boats?) G-2 is goatskin. R / John |
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Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: Cub Driver Date: 9/13/03 3:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive U.S. aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry Amendment that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers. In April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown, fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years. I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but I think someone is describing a WWII item. Tex If you go to my website and click on "After Koblenz" I am wearing a fur collared flight jacket, but I don't recall the designation. It sure wasn't an A-2. The shot was made in 1944 at Florennes Belgium after the Koblenz mission. . Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com I don't understand how the Pentagon can revoke a law. I thought only congresss could do that. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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In article ,
Aerophotos wrote: sound like US Navy G- jackets how ironic flying over arab land wearing arab clothing Pakistanis are not arabs, nor is Arabic their language. --Mike Buy Pakistani? The Pentagon is about to waive "buy American" provisions of U.S. law and allow Pakistan to provide the goatskin leather used in the distinctive U.S. aviator bomber jackets. The Defense Department has notified a U.S. leather tanner that it will waive provisions of the law known as the Berry Amendment that requires the Pentagon to buy key components from U.S. manufacturers. In April, the Pentagon announced it would buy 12,000 to 30,000 of the brown, fur-collared bomber jackets over the next several years. |
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"Aerophotos" wrote in message ... sound like US Navy G- jackets how ironic flying over arab land wearing arab clothing Pity you're an idiot. Pakistanis aren't Arabs. |
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On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:05:53 -0400, Cub Driver
wrote: Do you like George Bush in that photo? That would decide the matter one way or another Excuse me, Art! I wasn't inquiring about your political preferences. I mean to ask: do you *look* like Geo Bush in that photo! all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: Cub Driver Date: 9/14/03 2:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 06:05:53 -0400, Cub Driver wrote: Do you like George Bush in that photo? That would decide the matter one way or another Excuse me, Art! I wasn't inquiring about your political preferences. I mean to ask: do you *look* like Geo Bush in that photo! all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Naaaah. We never flew in all that fancy stuff. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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On 14 Sep 2003 11:32:04 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote:
Naaaah. We never flew in all that fancy stuff. Pity. You might have had a great career in politics. all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com |
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Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: Cub Driver Date: 9/15/03 2:49 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: On 14 Sep 2003 11:32:04 GMT, (ArtKramr) wrote: Naaaah. We never flew in all that fancy stuff. Pity. You might have had a great career in politics. Guess I was lucky after all. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law
From: (Michael) Date: 9/15/03 9:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: (ArtKramr) wrote in message ... Subject: Bomber-jacket leather and our law From: "Tex Houston" 777 Date: 9/12/03 6:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: "Mike Yared" wrote in message ... I'm around the USAF a lot and I don't remember any such item as a brown fur-collared bomber jacket as current issue. A-2 aircrew jacket maybe but If you go to my website and click on "After Koblenz" I am wearing a fur collared flight jacket, but I don't recall the designation. It sure wasn't an A-2. The shot was made in 1944 at Florennes Belgium after the Koblenz mission. You're wearing a B-10, probably my favorite flight jacket. Standardized in July '43, arrived in the ETO in March '44 and were used through the end of the war. No leather in it though... cotton shell with an alpaca lining. Much warmer than an A-2 (or a B-3 if you wear an F-3 suit under B-10) and much easier to mass produce. ~Michael Yeah it was a nice warm jacket. Not as jazzy as my A-2 but a hell of a lot warmer. And now that you mention B-10 it rings a bell. Thanks. Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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