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legal to use home-printed IFR plates?
Peter wrote:
So any FAA regulation mandating the use of specific charts cannot mean anything. There isn't any such regulation. The FAA would have no problem with me using charts for the U.S. produced in the U.K. or anywhere else, provided they were in an acceptable form and met generally acceptable aeronautical charting standards. |
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legal to use home-printed IFR plates?
Rick Cremer did not issue legal interpretations when he worked for
the FAA. Nor did he in this case. He merely reiterated FAA Policy. Notice that he said "cleared through the FAA's Chief Counsel's office." ? Unless he was lying, it is not FAA policy to violate a pilot for not carrying charts, because there is no regulation that would support the violation. I do agree that you can't function IFR without charts, but I also think the lack of a legal requirement to carry charts is important to note here because it puts this question about "can I use downloaded charts" into perspective. The question then becomes "is it safe?" rather than "is it legal?" |
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Scott Draper wrote:
Rick Cremer did not issue legal interpretations when he worked for the FAA. Nor did he in this case. He merely reiterated FAA Policy. Notice that he said "cleared through the FAA's Chief Counsel's office." ? Unless he was lying, it is not FAA policy to violate a pilot for not carrying charts, because there is no regulation that would support the violation. I do agree that you can't function IFR without charts, but I also think the lack of a legal requirement to carry charts is important to note here because it puts this question about "can I use downloaded charts" into perspective. The question then becomes "is it safe?" rather than "is it legal?" Sure, he passed it by legal. But, it was a snapshot in time. Downloading charts is not an issue in any case. If it were, NACO wouldn't have their charts on an official FAA web site. ;-) |
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legal to use home-printed IFR plates?
Print them from AOPA and they don't have that warning. They are fully
legal. -Robert |
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legal to use home-printed IFR plates?
Newps wrote:
wrote: The controller uses the NACO charts for his airspace, Well we used to. The approach plates at my facility have been stripped down so they do not have to be replaced with every charting cycle. The inbound course is on there, the graphical missed approach is there. There are no minimums listed. Thanks for the update! Wouldn't you "love" having a pilot request that you provide him with all the pertinent IAP info? |
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Newps wrote:
wrote: Peter wrote: So any FAA regulation mandating the use of specific charts cannot mean anything. There isn't any such regulation. The FAA would have no problem with me using charts for the U.S. produced in the U.K. or anywhere else, provided they were in an acceptable form and met generally acceptable aeronautical charting standards. They don't have to meet any standard. You want to write down the numbers pertinent to you feel free. So, are you saying that if I feel no numbers are pertinent to me because I know Newps will give me all that stuff when I sign on to his frequency? |
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Robert M. Gary wrote:
Print them from AOPA and they don't have that warning. They are fully legal. -Robert Print them from the NACO web site and remove all doubt. |
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legal to use home-printed IFR plates?
Also, even though the NACO PDF files has a date on the right hand side of the plate, you can compare a number on the bottom left corner of the plate that you have printed previously and see if it has changed. If that number agrees with what's on the NACO site your existing plate is still current, irregardless of what the date says. That number says something like "Amdt 6 05020". 05020 is the number that you need to verify. It means the plate was last modified on the 20th day of 2005. --M wrote: Robert M. Gary wrote: Print them from AOPA and they don't have that warning. They are fully legal. -Robert Print them from the NACO web site and remove all doubt. |
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