Pee bag gel

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:43:10 AM UTC-5, Delta8 wrote:
I've heard Depends work well but haven't tried them yet . Perhaps a
ground trial first. KS uses a catheter and bag under the seat ....The
thought of bailing out is scary though.




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Delta8

Tried an adult diaper. Found them to be good insulation. They will keep your nethers warm during a wave flight. They will also parboil your butt in warm weather. Feel bad for the girls since that's what many of them use.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:30:05 AM UTC-4, WB wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:43:10 AM UTC-5, Delta8 wrote:
I've heard Depends work well but haven't tried them yet . Perhaps a
ground trial first. KS uses a catheter and bag under the seat ....The
thought of bailing out is scary though.




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Delta8

Tried an adult diaper. Found them to be good insulation. They will keep your nethers warm during a wave flight. They will also parboil your butt in warm weather. Feel bad for the girls since that's what many of them use.

Any other diaper experience out there? I first thought the idea of diapers humiliating but then it occurred to me compared to wearing a condom for six hours and dealing with **** bags and tubing maybe not so bad. I briefly looked in the store and it seems there are lighter diapers, designed to just catch number 1, than the classic joked about big pants depends.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-4, soaringjac wrote:
We have cats and just got a new type of litter for them called SoPhresh Gel Lock. This stuff would be great in a zip lock pee bag! Super absorbent and turns into a gel immediately. I have not tried it in flight yet, but once i saw how this stuff worked i knew it would be great to put in some pee bags. They have it at Petco and probably amazon as well

https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcos...lti-cat-litter

What do you think?

The real deal is Sodium Polyacrylate powder. Search on the internet for best price. Add a bit to your pee bags and, voila, same as the expensive commercial pee bags at a much lower price. Turns urine into a soft gel. But I wouldn't throw it out the widow as it would hit like a mortar. Or just use vegetable bags from the grocery; pee, wind up but without knotting and chuck. The winding will come undone after clearing the glider but before hitting the ground and the fluid will depart the bag and evaporate. Tubing which vents the fluid out the glider will definitely corrode the rear cables and gear. Wear a condom catheter which will give you extra length and prevent spillage in the cockpit. They make some without adhesive which does the job adequately and they are cheap enough for one time use.

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 11:21:34 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 1:17:45 PM UTC-4, Dan Marotta wrote:
...Except when it corrodes anything it gets into.

There are gel filled pee bags available, but the medical grade urinary
bags work just fine.Â* They're cheap and if you're cheap (like me) they
can also be rinsed out and reused.Â* They have a drain and an anti-reflux
valve so they're mess free.

And did I say cheap?

On 4/30/2019 10:42 AM, JS wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 9:27:11 AM UTC-7, soaringjac wrote:

its really good stuff though.
So is a tube through the bottom of the glider. No bags of liquid or gel to sit with for hours.
Jim

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Dan, 5J

I used to use ziplock bags with toddler size diapers inside to soak up the liquid - optional but helps prevent spills. Perhaps the gelling cat litter can replace the diapers.

An "english ice bag" (available on Amazon for cheap) has a largish mouth with leak-proof screw-on cap, and expands to hold 2 or 3 uses. I use it plain (no gel or anything). Rinse and repeat (i.e. use on next flight) - it doesn't smell when the cap is not open. Since I got it I use very few of the diaper baggies. I bring a large zip-lock bag to put it inside of, to catch any liquid that misses the mouth of the English bag, and in case it springs a leak, and to protect it from abrasion so as to avoid a leak. No leaks in two seasons.

I want to get serious and talk safety for a few moments! I intensely dislike ziplock bags for urine relief, you can put out someone's eye! One day in the back seat of a Nimbus 4D the guy in front threw his pee bag out the window, it flew down the side of the aircraft and entered my window, hitting me in the face. Good thing I had sunglasses on or I could have lost an eye. I use a 2 liter leg bag that seems to be good for flights up to 8 hours, not chance of anyone losing an eye.

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 11:32:18 AM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:
I want to get serious and talk safety for a few moments!

Yup: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJJb_ufo8A

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 11:32:18 AM UTC-4, Jonathan St. Cloud wrote:

I want to get serious and talk safety for a few moments! I intensely dislike ziplock bags for urine relief, you can put out someone's eye! One day in the back seat of a Nimbus 4D the guy in front threw his pee bag out the window, it flew down the side of the aircraft and entered my window, hitting me in the face. Good thing I had sunglasses on or I could have lost an eye. I use a 2 liter leg bag that seems to be good for flights up to 8 hours, not chance of anyone losing an eye.

- Urine relief and bag disposal are separate issues. My rule is, if I pack it in I pack it out. Only the water in the wings (if any) is disposable in flight. That's why I put a diaper inside the ziplock bag: after a few minutes all the liquid is soaked up into the diaper, and there is no danger of leakage into the cockpit even if the bag is later punctured. (But if it gets squeezed, e.g., under your butt, it will still leak.) What are you worried about: being caught with a full bag in the cockpit after landing? Nothing shameful about that. Normal human body function.

I believe a couple "well know in the US" pilots did zip lock baggies.......
They would put an eaten apple core in the bag before tossing.....sorta like an apple core and "apple juice" going out....issue is.....DON'T zip it closed going out.....the drop flutters most liquid (thus energy) on the way down....
A quart or so dropping a long way has a ton of kinetic energy.

I used to buy Gatorade by the quart......I picked a reddish color drink.....easier to figure out "drink vs. pee" after a flight.....
Same for long road trips......LOL......

On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:14:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 12:02:35 AM UTC-4, soaringjac wrote:
We have cats and just got a new type of litter for them called SoPhresh Gel Lock. This stuff would be great in a zip lock pee bag! Super absorbent and turns into a gel immediately. I have not tried it in flight yet, but once i saw how this stuff worked i knew it would be great to put in some pee bags. They have it at Petco and probably amazon as well

https://www.petco.com/shop/en/petcos...lti-cat-litter

What do you think?

The real deal is Sodium Polyacrylate powder. Search on the internet for best price. Add a bit to your pee bags and, voila, same as the expensive commercial pee bags at a much lower price. Turns urine into a soft gel. But I wouldn't throw it out the widow as it would hit like a mortar. Or just use vegetable bags from the grocery; pee, wind up but without knotting and chuck. The winding will come undone after clearing the glider but before hitting the ground and the fluid will depart the bag and evaporate. Tubing which vents the fluid out the glider will definitely corrode the rear cables and gear. Wear a condom catheter which will give you extra length and prevent spillage in the cockpit. They make some without adhesive which does the job adequately and they are cheap enough for one time use.

Are you guys joking or are you actually throwing plastic bags out the window? Not only is that illegal, but it is VERY uncool.

If your fiddling with trying to aim into a small bag your not concentrating on flying the plane . It's one thing if you have an altitude cushion but trying a low save or in a gaggle it could be deadly .

As far as embarrassing wearing a diaper ...I think someone finding my body in wreckage with pants down would be worse.

Wearing a catheter is unnoticeable.Â* Think of sitting in a ****-wet
diaper for several hours.Â* Better have baby powder in the trailer.

On 5/1/2019 9:14 AM, wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 10:30:05 AM UTC-4, WB wrote:
On Wednesday, May 1, 2019 at 1:43:10 AM UTC-5, Delta8 wrote:
I've heard Depends work well but haven't tried them yet . Perhaps a
ground trial first. KS uses a catheter and bag under the seat ....The
thought of bailing out is scary though.




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Delta8
Tried an adult diaper. Found them to be good insulation. They will keep your nethers warm during a wave flight. They will also parboil your butt in warm weather. Feel bad for the girls since that's what many of them use.
Any other diaper experience out there? I first thought the idea of diapers humiliating but then it occurred to me compared to wearing a condom for six hours and dealing with **** bags and tubing maybe not so bad. I briefly looked in the store and it seems there are lighter diapers, designed to just catch number 1, than the classic joked about big pants depends.

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Dan, 5J