FAA 2nd class medical

The FAA has said the CFIs are paid to teach, not to fly. In any
case, no class 2 is required.

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
Actually, if your student is already rated and current, i.e.,
can act as PIC, you do not even need a medical certificate
at all -- see 14 CFR 61.3(c)(2)(viii).
The CFI would still need to have a medical certificate if the "rated and
current" PIC student is "under the hood" (14 CFR 91.109(b). In that case,
the required safety pilot is a required flight crew member and the
exception in 14 CFR 61.3(c)(2)(viii) would not apply.

Indeed. However, the required safety pilot need not be the CFI,
and you could still teach a student under the hood -- legally
and without a medical, with a properly rated safety pilot on
the right seat (in which case you have three people on board
who can log PIC time simultaneously! :-)

--Sylvain

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:58:43 -0700, Sylvain wrote:

Indeed. However, the required safety pilot need not be the CFI,
and you could still teach a student under the hood -- legally
and without a medical, with a properly rated safety pilot on
the right seat (in which case you have three people on board
who can log PIC time simultaneously! :-)

I agree. I wonder if anyone has ever done that (including having all three
log PIC), and then presented that to the FAA gg


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

That's the ideal instructor. Old .. wise .. and doing because you like to.

"LB" wrote in message
...
OK fellas! Thanks for your help! I took my commercial written a long time
ago but never did take the flight check. I did it just to see if I could
pass it. Now I'm regretting it. I'm off to get a set of trifocals and then
my medical. If you see a 60 yr. old antique pilot nodding his head to read
something it may be me. I hope there's some room for a 3500 hr 60 yr old
instructor out there!
Len

Ron Rosenfeld wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 16:58:43 -0700, Sylvain wrote:


Indeed. However, the required safety pilot need not be the CFI,
and you could still teach a student under the hood -- legally
and without a medical, with a properly rated safety pilot on
the right seat (in which case you have three people on board
who can log PIC time simultaneously! :-)


I agree. I wonder if anyone has ever done that (including having all three
log PIC), and then presented that to the FAA gg


One problem would be that the rules imply that the CFI and the safety
pilot both be positioned at the appropriate dual controls...

On Fri, 30 Sep 2005 14:49:48 -0400, Ron Natalie wrote:

One problem would be that the rules imply that the CFI and the safety
pilot both be positioned at the appropriate dual con

Aha! Not being an instructor, I did not realize that the CFI, in order to
log PIC time, would have to be positioned at a control station.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)

Ron Natalie wrote:
Indeed. However, the required safety pilot need not be the CFI,
and you could still teach a student under the hood -- legally
and without a medical, with a properly rated safety pilot on
the right seat (in which case you have three people on board
who can log PIC time simultaneously! :-)

One problem would be that the rules imply that the CFI and the safety
pilot both be positioned at the appropriate dual controls...

which rule? there is no rule that says the CFI needs to have
his/her own set of controls explicitely. Part 61.167(b)(4) which
does indeed say something like that explicitely only concerns
ATPs providing instructions, not CFIs -- now you could argue that
my proposition goes against 61.195(g)(2) but then I would argue
back that this clause concerns training for a pilot certificate or
rating and thus would not concern recurrent training of an already
rated pilot; now you could re-argue that 91.109 does mention
dual controls but then I would object that it does not say that
the CFI has to be seating at the second set of controls.

Now you could probably say rightfully that I am spending way too
much time reading the regulations and splitting hair, but I am
trying to prepare for an upcoming checkride :-))

--Sylvain

LB wrote:
I'm an antique pilot from the early 60's. I have a P ASEL&S + I ticket. I
have about 3500 hrs with about 600 hrs. actual instrument time. most of the
time is in Mooney's. I want to get back up to speed and go for my Commercial
and CFI. I'm older now and I have slightly higher blood pressure then I did
12 years ago when I stopped flying. I am taking medication for this. Also
years ago equilibrium was tested by standing on one foot but I don't recall
if the eyes had to be closed or not. My medication may be having an effect
because now it's a little harder for me to do that. I can do it easily with
my eyes open. Does anyone know the protocol if one is taking medication for
b/p applying for a 2nd class medical and how equilibrium is tested today?
Thanks for any information
Len

You should not have any trouble with it as long as the BP medication is
an approved one. If it is not, your AME can probably change it to an
approved one.

You don't need a medical at all as CFI for a lot of things, but all you
need is a third class medical anyway. The second class medical is
basically for charter pilots and the like.