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"James Hart" wrote in message ... David McArthur wrote: Did anyone see the TV show earlier this yr where they put a group of RAF bods in a Lanc simulator and asked them to re-create the raid, including navaigation to the target and the bomb run - really interesting show, well put together. David. There's also another one where they put some recruits through the Spitfire training program. A good mate of mine was on that show, Ben WB (the ugly UAS guy). The joke at the time was since he is such a bad pilot, he'd been streamed vintage. Jim D -- James... www.jameshart.co.uk |
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Ken Duffey wrote:
PPowondra wrote: Subject: dam busters From: "Tacitus" Date: 2/23/2004 20:42 Eastern Standard Time Didn't they do another version with the dog named Digger for the US? Actually they called the dog Sambo here in the US. It was only a couple of years ago that I learned that my copy of "The Dam Busters" was different from the UK version of the book, wherein the dog's true name is given. As far as the movie, on the rare showings on TV, they even dub out the name Sambo. Paul I also thought they'd called it 'digger' when shown on TV ?? At least here in the UK they did - or is my memory playing tricks - again! No it's not! They did re-jig the name in a previous showing but I think in the more recent showing they went back to the original name. Richard. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ Ken Duffey - Flanker Freak & Russian Aviation Enthusiast Flankers Website - http://www.flankers.co.uk/ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++ |
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"Digger" sounds like how someone would say the original name if they had a touch of the sniffles... "Digger" was an uncomplementary name for either dark-skinned or mixed race folks in Australia, or at least it was in the past. Perhaps it was the local equiv of "Sambo", who, when I was a kid, was a savvy and rather brave youg kid that defeated a hungry pride of lions using only his wits. How that ever got turned into a racial slur, I will never know! v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Donate your memories - write a note on the back and send your old photos to a reputable museum, don't take them with you when you're gone. |
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"Krztalizer" wrote in message
... re PC versions of Gibson's dog ****** "Digger" sounds like how someone would say the original name if they had a touch of the sniffles... "Digger" was an uncomplementary name for either dark-skinned or mixed race folks in Australia, or at least it was in the past. First time I've seen that version! More typical is this example: From 'Anzacs at War: The Story of Australian and New Zealand Battles' John Laffin (C)1965 "The term 'Digger' is not so easy to pin down. It became common among Australian and New Zealand soldiers in France in 1917, but was probably in use during 1916. Bean [Australian official historian] said that the word evolved from the professional gum-diggers[1] of New Zealand. Many old soldiers believe that the word came about as a natural result of their trench-digging activities in France and Flanders [2]. Others claim that some West Australian soldiers, gold-miners in civilian life, started the word on its way. At one time it was slang expression for a plodder, which could make it an apt term for an infantryman. Whatever its beginning, the word has a much stronger connection with Australian soldiers than with New Zealanders, who were more commonly known to allies and even to enemies as 'Kiwis'.[3]" [1] the gum involved here is from the kauri tree. The gum was generally recovered from swampy ground, hence the need to dig. Googling on 'kauri gum' will find you lots of people eager to sell you examples, as well as a better explanation. [2] I've seen a claim that it was particularly linked with the WWI Maori Pioneer Battalion. [3] 'Enzeds' was also in use in WWI. -- Errol Cavit | | "The Battle of Romani was the decisive engagement of the entire Sinai and Palestine Campaign. Before Romani British policy, strategy and tactics were all defensive, those of the Turks were offensive. The stand of the 1st and 2nd Light Horse brigades and the counter-attack of the New Zealanders reversed the situation." Anzacs at War, J Laffin |
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PPowondra wrote:
Subject: dam busters From: "Richard Brooks" No it's not! They did re-jig the name in a previous showing but I think in the more recent showing they went back to the original name. Richard. "Digger" sounds like how someone would say the original name if they had a touch of the sniffles... Paul They cut out the WAAF with the cold who spilt the coffee then said "oh boddocks!" Richard. |
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Krztalizer wrote:
"Digger" sounds like how someone would say the original name if they had a touch of the sniffles... "Digger" was an uncomplementary name for either dark-skinned or mixed race folks in Australia, or at least it was in the past. Perhaps it was the local equiv of "Sambo", who, when I was a kid, was a savvy and rather brave youg kid that defeated a hungry pride of lions using only his wits. How that ever got turned into a racial slur, I will never know! v/r Gordon ====(A+C==== USN SAR Sadly, everything gets turned into something derogative as I remember it being turned into a taunt from the white neighbour against his black neighbour on the crap Brit comedy of some decades ago entitled "Love Thy Neighbour"! The point of this comedy (like the Alf Garnett character in "'til Death Us Do Part") was to take the **** out of the bigotted white male but sometimes these things can be too subtle for most folks. http://www.phill.co.uk/videos/garnett.html Richard. |
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