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Martin Gregorie wrote in message . ..
On 18 Apr 2004 23:11:00 -0700, (Lennie the Lurker) wrote: As far as the gliders go, I had my 1-26 and was happy with it, I was even happy with it after I had flown it. Dammit, Lennie, you keep putting reasons in front of me to visit the States again - I really must fly a 1-26 to see why so many pilots like them. That's funny, Martin picked up on the positive note! AND..he will spend some pounds in the US to fly our beloved 1-26! BTW, There is a good chance that most altitude Diamonds were flown in that type of ship. 30 Years ago droves of people from all over the world, picked up their diamonds in the Mine at Black Forrest Gliderport in Colorado Springs. Guess there is a reason Lennie calls himself the Lurker. He initially meant to just DO that. If he would just keep away from that keyboard unless he had some positive thoughts? I learned something about Steel! Lets all be very positive and the sport will SOAR. |
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Martin Gregorie wrote in message . ..
On 18 Apr 2004 23:11:00 -0700, (Lennie the Lurker) wrote: As far as the gliders go, I had my 1-26 and was happy with it, I was even happy with it after I had flown it. Dammit, Lennie, you keep putting reasons in front of me to visit the States again - I really must fly a 1-26 to see why so many pilots like them. Think it appeals to those that like to keep things simple. It's a simple plane, rigging it takes two people maybe 20 minutes, the second time, and, mine anyhow, the cockpit was pretty uncluttered. Rudder inputs are more like what one would expect from a powered plane, pressures instead of movements, but other than being more responsive than the 2-33 was, it flew about the same. Then there's the possibility that some of them just like thumbing their noses at the glassholes and cranking out some pretty darn impressive flights. Not a world beater or record setter, but for puttering in the "house thermal" just a fun little plane. |
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It helps to have an obsessive personality - soaring is never far from any topic with me around. So far I have recruited an average of one new club member per year - this year looks like it might be three... Over achieving here ;-) I used to be like that- my wife called me the flying evangelist. I've since learned that in a function room with 200 people, only one or two have any real interest in soaring. It boggles my mind, but there it is. When I meet some one they soon understand that I fly sailplanes and that a ride is available at the drop of a hat. But, they have to ask. Tony V. |
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Tony Verhulst writes
I used to be like that- my wife called me the flying evangelist. I've since learned that in a function room with 200 people, only one or two have any real interest in soaring. It boggles my mind, but there it is. Got to confess, it is absolutely baffling. I find friends and family are at first surprised and faintly bemused to find that I've got myself mixed up in this game, but from then on they all seem to develop the same glazed, listless expression whenever my own eyes (inevitably) drift skywards or conversation so much as hints at either flying or the weather. Strange people, the lot of 'em. -- Bill Gribble /---------------------------------------\ | http://www.cotswoldgliding.co.uk | | http://www.scapegoatsanon.demon.co.uk | \---------------------------------------/ |
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Martin Gregorie wrote
As far as the gliders go, I had my 1-26 and was happy with it, I was even happy with it after I had flown it. Dammit, Lennie, you keep putting reasons in front of me to visit the States again - I really must fly a 1-26 to see why so many pilots like them. Pilots like them because they're fun to fly. Light on the controls, turns tight, thermals on a fart. Won't penetrate worth a damn, but if the winds are light or you're going downwind it's a hoot. Think Ka-8, only the wings are shorter (and consequently the glide ratio is lower) and the control feel not quite as good. Thing is, Ka-8's are not very common in the US and in that class of glider, the 1-26 is the next best thing (among those commonly available in the US). Also, Ka-8's have wood wings, which scares some people and makes it impossible to tie them down outside. 1-26's have metal wings. Michael |
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It makes no difference really, three people worked very hard to get me
to try it, two more joined them in trying to counteract the badmouth, only to meet with failure because of a small number of people with fat heads and huge egos. The end result, Egotist, one, soaring, zero. Not the total cause, but enough that I decided the expense I was paying wasn't worth it. I can stay at home and be ignored, which sure beats going to the field and being irritated. One of the "Michaels", don't remember which, once declared me as a "total loss". Guess he was right, but I'm still the one that came out on top. This persons self confidence seems to be close to zero when it comes to soaring, given he gave up because of one other persons opinion. Or were there more, perhaps...? On the other hand his self confidence seems to be equally unlimited while he tries to convince the soaring world they are all making a big mistake, he's the only one who's wright, trying with amazing amount of time and energy to prove they are all terribly wrong in all their positive thoughts about this sport and don't know what they are doing. I can stay at home and be ignored... Very obvious you can't. but I'm still the one that came out on top. Can't quite see how, given the cloudbase at 6500ft and me at 9000ft yesterday ridgesoaring the clouds. The beauty of it was overwhelming. Hard to understand how anyone can desperately not want such an experience. And more than that - he doesn't want any one else having it, either. OK I can understand that - it's called jealousy and is quite common. Nothing to worry about, Lenny. |
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Martin Gregorie wrote in message . ..
The location I live in may have a small advantage over yours: there are three or so local clubs I could have joined initially. I was fortunate that the one I fly with was the first I looked at, it felt right at my first visit and that impression was not misleading. There are two, and possibly a third, within a reasonable driving distance from me. (Reasonable for most people, two miles across town to the hardware store isn't reasonable to me.) I've been to two of them, the nearest club and the commercial that I flew from. The one trip to the club, before I had even taken the introductory ride was a disaster, I ran into the local asshole right off the bat. The possible third, a few people have decided to fly there instead of the operation I was with, but within three months they were back. (Northern Illinois, megabuck territory, you can smell the money. OR, as my buddy put it, "You are in one of the weathiest towns on the planet, you are looking for a way out of there.") We may be guilty of not always talking to newcomers as much as we should, but I've never heard put-downs around the flight line. The "put down" seems to be something we have elevated to an art form, and honed to perfection, often very cutting. I can be as guilty there as anyone else, but I usually confine it to something that I see as gross stupidity. And as I've said before, perhaps I'm more sensitive to some behaviors than most people, but sometimes I wonder how many other people also are. |
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It should be noted that Lennie machined the nicest Schreder flap crank
system that I have ever seen I wish I had one for my HP-14!! Lennie, if you have one sitting around, I sure would like to buy it!! (Please contact me directly.) Wayne http://www.soaridaho.com/Schreder |
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"Bert Willing" wrote in message ...
In all the European clubs I have come across, I never watched such a behaviour. There is a difference between a club and a commercial operation. In a club, such things can be somewhat controlled by general consensus. In a commercial, it's paying customer to paying customer, and nobody is in control of it. One example of things I disagree with, one of the aircraft supply houses saw in their "infinite wisdom" that I "needed" a subscription to Flying magazine, without asking if I wanted it. It has been over two years since I even sat in a cockpit, and I pointed this out to them when I called them and told them to cancel the subscription. Another copy of the mag lasted five seconds between being placed in my mailbox, and placed on the bottom of the garbage can. (And if anyone can't make the connection, what I told them was "NO!", not "maybe". ["What part of NO do you not understand?"]) A certain amount of aggressiveness is needed to bring in new people. Going beyond that is pushing something I've already stated I don't want. There is no risk that they're going to **** me off a little more, it's a certainty. |
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