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Old December 24th 05, 08:21 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Steve schrieb:

No, it's not. The PA200 is a very stable aircraft, there are no real
surprises for the pilot when in mech mode.



A bit sensitive in pitch maybe? :-)


With wings at 25 degrees the Tornado is quite sensitive in pitch, even
with FBW. Especially since approaches and take offs are done with
deactivated SPILS...

Theres a video at the link below of a GR1 doing a mech-mode approach,
although thats not what the vid is about, hehe. Scroll down to 'Bonus' and
its the 'Near miss' video. A hairy situation.

http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/videos/index.htm


Nice video. This btw happened in Decimomannu/Italy when the tower
"forgot" about a italian Tornado waiting for T/O clearance and allowed a
German Tornado to land...

Benjamin
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Old December 27th 05, 12:20 AM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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On Sat, 24 Dec 2005 21:21:50 +0100, Benjamin Gawert wrote:

http://www.fromtheflightdeck.com/videos/index.htm


Nice video. This btw happened in Decimomannu/Italy when the tower
"forgot" about a italian Tornado waiting for T/O clearance and allowed a
German Tornado to land...


Ah, didn't know it was at Deci. Thought it happened in UK but with an
Italian exchange student in the front and moaning mini in the back. :-) Did
the GR see the F2 in time or was it a red flare job? Heard the F2 crew had
to scrub due to shock.


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Old December 28th 05, 10:27 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting,rec.aviation.military
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Steve schrieb:

Ah, didn't know it was at Deci. Thought it happened in UK but with an
Italian exchange student in the front and moaning mini in the back. :-) Did
the GR see the F2 in time or was it a red flare job? Heard the F2 crew had
to scrub due to shock.


IIRC the GR recognized in the last moment that the space on the runway
was already occupied ;-)

It looks ridiculous but sadly things like that happen. Aircrafts in
bright grey like the italian Tornado are very hard to see from above,
and if the tower personel is having a nap then **** like this happens.
If the pilot hadn't seen the F.3 in time then this probably would have
resulted in a crash...

Benjamin
 




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