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Ren Yenc
Stop making an arse of yourself.
On Mon, 1 Sep 2008 09:06:19 -0400, "SKUNK WORKS" wrote: because they are dickheads of the worst kind and don't want you to see the photos they post ****em and aggravate the hell out of the good posters in here. "michael hoare" wrote in message ... I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the point of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without downloading some other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it ..what purpose does it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the pics i really dont see the point of it all Mick H -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com Never play leapfrog with a unicorn! |
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Ren Yenc
"michael hoare" wrote in
: I dont care if its been said a thousand times i fail to see the point of encrypting entries so that they cant be viewed without downloading some other crap to view them ....whats the purpose of it ..what purpose does it serve besides ****ing off those who cant view the pics i really dont see the point of it all Mick H And then there is the issue of flooding. What is wrong with posting just a dozen or so images per day? Is there some urgency that requires a whole series to uploaded all at once? |
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Ren Yenc
And then there is the issue of flooding. What is wrong with posting just a dozen or so images per day? Is there some urgency that requires a whole series to uploaded all at once? Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! |
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Ren Yenc
JRW wrote:
Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Why flood images that are not your own the floods are of images redaly availible on the USAF/ NASA and USN sites. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. That is why they are never original work They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. Because you can see them on the originating sites. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. Why wait when you can visit the original sites A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! Not a shame to killfile if the work were their own like Glen/Dale and others then it might be a shame but your right it is a I dont give a rats ass attitude toward others that has all but started to ruin this group. So flood away and post in YENC no use complaining you just need to go to the NASA site and you will find most if not all the photos that have been posted. You might also want to visit the USAF site for the high rez shots there. Let them flood and post just killfile them and trust me you are not missing anything. |
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Ren Yenc
"Maple1" schreef in bericht news:hDYuk.141550$nD.126777@pd7urf1no... JRW wrote: Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Why flood images that are not your own the floods are of images redaly availible on the USAF/ NASA and USN sites. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. That is why they are never original work They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. Because you can see them on the originating sites. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. Why wait when you can visit the original sites A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! Not a shame to killfile if the work were their own like Glen/Dale and others then it might be a shame but your right it is a I dont give a rats ass attitude toward others that has all but started to ruin this group. So flood away and post in YENC no use complaining you just need to go to the NASA site and you will find most if not all the photos that have been posted. You might also want to visit the USAF site for the high rez shots there. Let them flood and post just killfile them and trust me you are not missing anything. Hear, hear! Regards, Herman |
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Ren Yenc
JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ...
Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ should be adopted to guide people. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet |
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Ren Yenc
"HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht ... JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ should be adopted to guide people. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet True, you don't have to open every post. But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about good manners. Regards, Herman |
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On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 00:16:35 +0200, "Herman"
wrote: "HEMI-Powered" schreef in bericht .. . JRW added these comments in the current discussion du jour ... Flooding, well okay, *but at least provide indexes*. Then at least you can choose what you want to see. Frankly I, along with others don't even look. The few loud mouths that do THINK they speak for the rest of us, look...lol You would think, after all the DON'T DO IT posts they'd get a clue. No, it's pure to disrupt and gain attention. Nothing else. They do it because they can, and don't give a flying whazzo if anyone looks at their posts. They post on topic, but don't give a **** about the most of the folks that would view them. I agree a few dozen a day is best. No one is "waiting" for these. A few posts like you said per day would be great. You'll never change their spots....killfile is the best. Damn shame! What do you consider the threshold of flooding? No one is forced to open every post or any at all so what's the big fuss? If this NG has a collective strong feeling about on-topic posts, max posts/day, and encoding scheme(s), perhaps an enforceable FAQ should be adopted to guide people. -- HP, aka Jerry Don't be a fop or a blooter, make only pithy comments on Usenet True, you don't have to open every post. But when some moron decides to flood the NG with 15,000 posts, at J3 did recently, this is bound to cause problems. There are people active who post in formats / numbers that most people do not appreciate. But they still go ahead, just because they can. An enforceable FAQ is not neccessary when people just apply some common sense and remember what mommy told them about good manners. If you want the whole flood, get it. If you don't, just look at a few. We are not forcing you to read every post. -- http://www.petersparrots.com http://www.insanevideoclips.com http://www.petersphotos.com People who live in glass houses should **** in the basement. |
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Ren Yenc
Maple1 wrote:
Like this one? That was agreed upon 2 years ago? http://www.aerophotointernational.com/guide.htm Oh and for those of you that wont click on the link here it is Please note 3,4,6,and 8 under Posting Guidelines Overview The objective of this Guide is provide posting and behavioral guidelines within the ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION newsgroup (ABPA). It is NOT LAW. Because this NG is self-moderated,users who ignore this Guide can expect comments from other users. Serial defaulters may attract stronger comments and/or be "kill filtered" or "Plonked" by regular users. Therefore, if you wish your aviation pictures to be appreciated by visitors, and regulars in this newsgroup, it is to your advantage to follow these guidelines. 1. The purpose of the ABPA is to share photos of aircraft, information regarding aviation related events, stories about aircraft that are featured in this Newsgroup and, above all, to share our passion for aircraft with like-minded people regardless of nationality, race or religion. 2. The ABPA is entirely self moderated, and there is no formal membership criteria, or governing board. Members are free to come and go as they wish - to contribute, or not, is entirely voluntary. No one should feel forced to contribute to the group, and no one should feel intimidated by the group. 3. Users of the ABPA are legally and personally responsible for any images they post, particularly regarding copyright issues and suitability. As many members of the group post images that they have taken themselves, they do occasionally get rather upset when others post their images either without permission, or with copyright logos removed. All photographers have their own ideas regarding the usage of their images, and if in doubt about the use of in image we request that you please ask before either posting or reusing an original image. 4. This Guide will be amended as the need arises. Suggestions for any changes should be posted to the Newsgroup. Any changes receiving general agreement following a discussion will then be included. Posting Guidelines 1. Aviation Only. The ABPA is dedicated to aviation orientated subjects. However, there are no restrictions upon the specific types of aircraft images that can be posted to the group. Given that non aviation subjects frequently appear at air shows and in museums, we ask that you use the following example of an acceptable posting... That really cool looking restored tank featured at the annual air show is a credit to everyone involved. So in the context of a series of 30 or more aviation related images regarding an air show, with 2 or 3 featuring the really cool tank are acceptable. On the other hand posting a series of 30 images of non aviation subjects at the air show with only 1 or 2 aircraft is not acceptable. 2. NO Blatantly Obvious Pornography... Posters are STRONGLY REQUESTED TO REFRAIN FROM POSTING OBVIOUSLY pornographic images. A simple nude standing in front of an airplane is one thing, seeing a girl playing with her #$% is another. Images featuring nudes in a non-pornographic way, and STILL IN THE CONTEXT OF AVIATION, are acceptable and will be referred to as Nude-Hangar Queens (or Kings). Therefore, the group would appreciate the wording Nude-Hangar Queen (or King) within the image's description. The only exceptions to this would something like the nose art on say a WWII bomber which can be a touch racy. 3. No Multimedia or Multi-Part files.... As the name implies, this Newsgroup is for posting "Binaries Pictures Aviation", that is, photos, and artworks relating to aviation. Multimedia, video clips and sound files are not welcome here, mainly due to bandwidth requirements. However references to multimedia aviation related postings in the NG alt.binaries.multimedia.aviation, and other newsgroups, or on a website are acceptable in this Newsgroup. The reason Multi-part attachments are discouraged is that some news servers may lose a portion of the messages, and some news readers are not able to assemble the parts properly. 4. Image Size.... Many visitors and posters have slow dial-up internet connections and/or are download limited, which makes it difficult to view large attachments (400Kb plus). File sizes in the range 100 to 300Kb in JPEG format generally give adequate resolution. If viewers would like a picture at higher resolution they should check with the poster by email. 5. Image Descriptions are strongly encouraged for ALL IMAGES. Large numbers of files (plus 10) without a description of what the image is, or index image displaying the images in the series, is not considered an acceptable posting. If your favorite aviation subject is civil airliners for example, few things will match the frustration you feel when you unknowingly download 30 images of some WWII warbirds. Granted the logical thing to do is grab a couple first, but if it was an event where both types of aircraft are featured what then? For this reason the use of one of the very popular freeware image index programs is encouraged, failing that at the very least please include a reasonable description of the image. This also has the added advantage of making it easier to track comments made about your images, and identifying a particular series of images to the group. 6. Large Floods of images... Floods of images should be restricted to approx. 50 images per day. We as a group would prefer to see them over several days, rather than all at one time. Doing so, and keeping the images to a size of about 300k, or less enables other posters to post groups of images. Part of the reason for this is that many local servers have a limited retention based upon size. For example; if you post a flood of 300 or more images all in the 500k range at 1:00am, and then at 10:00am someone else does the same thing, and yet a third person posts at 10:00pm. On some of the smaller servers someone is either not going to see their images posted until the next day, or possibly have images bounced off of the NG. For people using independent newsgroup servers this is not a problem, however for many of the smaller servers it can be. 7. NO Political, social, or religious discussions of ANY sort... We all have our opinions regarding religion, social issues, and politics. However given the strong emotions that these types of discussion frequent cause IT IS STRONGLY preferred that members DO NOT engage in these types of debates with the newsgroup ABPA. Besides if you check the title of this Newsgroup there is not a mention of politics, social issues, or religion within it. Wishing someone a well meaning nationalistic or religious message such as Happy 4th of July, Merry Christmas, Happy Chanukah etc. is however considered acceptable... 8. YENC - is NOT Acceptable. Yenc encoding is not yet standardized, so there are different versions in use and many news readers do not recognize any of them. The same applies to any other non-standard posting formats. To avoid upset, please use only the standard UU-Encoding when posting your pictures. Besides, if you are looking for discussion, or conversation regarding an image, you are far more likely obtain it with a standard format posting, rather than a non-standard one. To be fair about it, if Yenc or some other method does become a recognized standard then this will quickly be amended. 9. No HTML within postings... The Usenet service (newsgroups) has traditionally been text-based, and most dedicated news readers still are. However, since Outlook Express and the major browsers have been able to access newsgroups, and their format of choice is HTML, many users are posting to the newsgroups in HTML format. Unfortunately, this means that all the cool looking fancy backgrounds, special characters, bold or multi-colored fonts, inserted lines or other effects appear as dozens of lines of seemingly unintelligible characters interspaced with a few lines of text to those who still use text-based readers. As a courtesy to these people it is suggested that you refrain from posting in HTML if possible. 10. NO Inflammatory Remarks (Flaming) Deliberately making derogatory or inflammatory remarks (often referred to as "flaming") about people posting to the ABPA, and/or any aspect of their postings, WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. This does NOT include comments such as: (a) Constructive criticisms or suggestions as to how to improve someone's images (however, saying a person's posting is nothing but crap is not acceptable), (b) Corrections to miss-identification of aircraft, pilots etc... (c) Corrections to obviously innocent mistakes. Harsh, or insulting criticism about simple mistakes, or a less-than professional picture, when not deserved, can be particularly disturbing to newbies who may never return to the Group. Let us try to maintain the friendly atmosphere that has been established in ABPA over many years. 11. When responding to a LONG posting.... It is requested that you restrict the reposted text to only those parts that are pertinent to your response. Reposting an entire message when responding to a long posting not only clutters the system up but is also a discourtesy to those trying to read your contribution. We all make this mistake now and again, however if, and when you do, please don't be offended if you receive a GENTLE Chastisement from the other members of the group. Conclusion... Newbies to the group are encouraged to "lurk" for a few days BEFORE posting images... Doing this will help you get a feel for how the group operates, and what is considered acceptable behavior. Above all else though if you have a question, or are unsure about an issue PLEASE ASK!!! You will find that most members of the group are reasonably friendly, and very eager to help new posters. None of these rules are chiseled in stone, and there will always be exceptions. This guide intended to be just a guide and nothing more.. The group at large asks that the spirit of this text be adhered to. This Guide is applicable ONLY TO THE NEWSGROUP alt.binaries.aviation.pictures, other newsgroups may OR MAY NOT have similar guidelines. Above all else we encourage everyone who enjoys the subject of aviation to participate, and use the guide to everyone's advantage. Thank you, The participants of the newsgroup ALT.BINARIES.PICTURES.AVIATION.... Questions or comments about this guide should be submitted to the newsgroup Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Aviation |
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