Garmin 430/530 WAAS upgrade reminder Nov 15

"Paul kgyy" wrote in message
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I know that there is considerable skepticism about whether this will
ever be delivered, but the best way to make sure it isn't is if nobody
signs up for it. So if you do have one of these units, please provide
your serial number to your installer and get your name on the list.

There is no upfront cost aside from the time for the phone call.


I talked to the lady at Garmin yesterday as my dealer was registering me for
update. She said she's been swamped with last minute registers so I think
Garmin has got the picture that we want it done. I'm not holding my breath
on 2006 though.

What functionality do you get after the upgrade that you don't have now?

What functionality do you get after the upgrade that you don't have now?


One is GPS/WAAS provided vertical guidance.

Ron Lee

Doug wrote:

What functionality do you get after the upgrade that you don't have now?

The ability to fly glideslope-like approaches with the GPS into airports
that never could afford an ILS.

--
Peter
























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I would like to know the full extent of the upgrade. Will the 430 now
have airways?

Ron Lee

At AOPA in Tampa, the Garmin rep said "No airways on 430/530 series GPS"

Then again they said WAAS in late 2003, early '04

I'm also waiting on terrain.

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.

"Ron Lee" wrote in message
...
I would like to know the full extent of the upgrade. Will the 430 now
have airways?

Ron Lee

Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:

At AOPA in Tampa, the Garmin rep said "No airways on 430/530 series GPS"

I've been told this as well. When I ask "why", I get silly answers like
"it's too complex a way to enter flight plans".

That always sounded silly to me...until I spoke to a VFR-only pilot about
it. So perhaps either (1) Garmin sells mostly to VFR pilots or (2) Garmin
tests their software mostly with VFR pilots.

Or perhaps (3) it was just a silly excuse. I've heard other silly things
that speak to some disconnect with the company. For example, technical
support once told me that there'd be no CPU speedup in the WAAS upgrade,
and that it would be done later. That same day, someone in engineering
told me "of course the CPU will be faster; that's required for
certification!"

They're all very nice and helpful. Amazing as I find it (I deal mostly with
tech firms {8^), Garmin has some friendly and communicative people working
for them. I just wish they'd get the story straight laugh.

Then again they said WAAS in late 2003, early '04

I'm also waiting on terrain.

Hey, isn't that out already (as of late last year, if I recall correctly)?
Or was that only for the 530?

- Andrew

It's the 'later this year' that I've been hearing for 3 yrs. I also don't
want the box to go in for terrain (which I have on an EFB) and then go back
for WAAS. I'll do it once. (and for all)

--

Thx, {|;-)

Victor J. (Jim) Osborne, Jr.
"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Victor J. Osborne, Jr. wrote:

At AOPA in Tampa, the Garmin rep said "No airways on 430/530 series GPS"

I've been told this as well. When I ask "why", I get silly answers like
"it's too complex a way to enter flight plans".

That always sounded silly to me...until I spoke to a VFR-only pilot about
it. So perhaps either (1) Garmin sells mostly to VFR pilots or (2) Garmin
tests their software mostly with VFR pilots.

Or perhaps (3) it was just a silly excuse. I've heard other silly things
that speak to some disconnect with the company. For example, technical
support once told me that there'd be no CPU speedup in the WAAS upgrade,
and that it would be done later. That same day, someone in engineering
told me "of course the CPU will be faster; that's required for
certification!"

They're all very nice and helpful. Amazing as I find it (I deal mostly
with
tech firms {8^), Garmin has some friendly and communicative people working
for them. I just wish they'd get the story straight laugh.

Then again they said WAAS in late 2003, early '04

I'm also waiting on terrain.

Hey, isn't that out already (as of late last year, if I recall correctly)?
Or was that only for the 530?

- Andrew

I'm also waiting on terrain.

Hey, isn't that out already (as of late last year, if I recall correctly)?
Or was that only for the 530?

Certified terrain (TAWS) is only available on the 530 and it's
expensive. Terrain "advisories" are available now for the 430 and 530.
It's coming standard on all new units (as of beginning of September). If
you bought a unit after June 1 the upgrade is free otherwise it's $500.
In either case you'll also need to pay for about an hour of shop time to
get it installed (You could send it back to Garmin but it won't be
cheaper and it'll take longer). You may need a bit more shop time if
your flight manual supplement needs to be updated.

--Rick

Rick Beebe wrote On 11/18/05 13:37,:
I'm also waiting on terrain.

Hey, isn't that out already (as of late last year, if I recall correctly)?
Or was that only for the 530?


Certified terrain (TAWS) is only available on the 530 and it's
expensive. Terrain "advisories" are available now for the 430 and 530.
It's coming standard on all new units (as of beginning of September). If
you bought a unit after June 1 the upgrade is free otherwise it's $500.
In either case you'll also need to pay for about an hour of shop time to
get it installed (You could send it back to Garmin but it won't be
cheaper and it'll take longer). You may need a bit more shop time if
your flight manual supplement needs to be updated.

--Rick

Although certainly integration of TWAS into the 430/530 would be nice, the
Garmin upgrade is meant for turboprops that require it under FAA rules.
There is no advantage over having it in an add on unit, such as the
new Garmin portables. If you get a TWAS alert I doubt you are going to be
worried about if it is a TSO'ed, official warning while you pull up...