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Old September 24th 05, 03:02 PM
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.


If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.
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Old September 24th 05, 04:12 PM
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"Paul Tomblin" wrote in message
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You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that. I assumed that
since it was still an IFR clearance, it was still valid. Not that flight
level rules are likely to apply to me any time soon.


FAA Order 7110.65P Air Traffic Control

Chapter 7. Visual

Section 1. General

7-1-1. CLASS A AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS

Do not apply visual separation or issue VFR or "VFR-on-top" clearances in
Class A airspace.


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Old September 24th 05, 04:13 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.


Or at the upper or lower limit of the block or anywhere between them.


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Old September 24th 05, 04:43 PM
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On 9/23/2005 4:13 PM, Blanche wrote:

Uh....if you're between 18K and 60K in the US, then you are required
to be on an IFR flight plan, hence only at even number altitudes.
33,500 is inappropriate.


Actually, while in controlled airspace you are required to fly at
the altitude assigned by ATC. The odd/even altitudes/levels is only
when outside of controlled airspace.


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Old September 24th 05, 05:43 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.


If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.


Not in Class A, you can't.


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Old September 24th 05, 05:51 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Not in Class A, you can't.


Why can't you get a block altitude and fly in the middle of it in Class A
airspace?


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Old September 24th 05, 05:58 PM
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.


If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.



Not in Class A, you can't.


You most certainly can.

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Old September 24th 05, 06:40 PM
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"Newps" wrote in message
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Matt Barrow wrote:
"Newps" wrote in message
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Paul Tomblin wrote:



You can't do VFR OTP in class A? I didn't know that.

If you want to be OTP in class A you get a block altitude and fly in the
middle.



Not in Class A, you can't.


You most certainly can.


Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

Could you 'splain that one?

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Old September 24th 05, 06:47 PM
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"Matt Barrow" wrote in message
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Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.

Could you 'splain that one?


Block altitude. "Maintain block FL 330 through FL 350". You can operate at
any altitude within that block and have vertical separation from traffic at
FL 320 and FL 360.


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Old September 24th 05, 07:21 PM
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Matt Barrow wrote:


Well knock me over with a feather!!

Above 18,000 feet, where the separation is 1000 feet


The separation is a minimum of 1000 feet, no reason I can't just give
you more airspace.

and AFAIK, VFR
operations are definitely NOT allowed? The example given was 33,500
feet...RVSM air space.


You won't be given an OTP clearance but then at 330 you wouldn't need
that since you're hard pressed to find many clouds up there that aren't
already thunderstorms.
 




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