Recording your flight time

"Jay Honeck" wrote in message
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That, and you're stuck using the ridiculous (to me) "1.4 hours" nonsense.
Why don't we just use "1:24", like the rest of the civilized world?

Time math?

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.




I don't even have a timer on my tach.
Nor was there one on any of the more than 6 aircraft that I trained in.
So I don't agree with your statement.

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Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...

It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

Nope, it's based on time in service. You can use any reliable
means of determining the service time as far as the FAA is concerned.
(Not that TBO means anything to most of us).

Yes, but if his intention was just to do a fast taxi, he'd
do all the same talking, dodging & ground navigating but
not be able to log it. Odd, don't you think?


The rules say "with intention of flight" and "landed".

If you have intention of flight, but never actually leave the ground, you can't
stop logging. So, by that token, I have sixty eight thousand hours in a Tiger.

Jose

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"tony roberts" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote:

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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I know one pilot who doesn't have a Hobbs, and who only records about
half his actual time. Having witnessed this I personally would prefer,
in the interests of safety, to see Hobbs time as a legal requirement -
rather like an oddometer reading is required for a used car sale.
It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.




I don't even have a timer on my tach.
Nor was there one on any of the more than 6 aircraft that I trained in.
So I don't agree with your statement.

No, you don't have a timer on the tach; but that's not the time we're
talking about. The discussion is "flight time" not engine time (for purpose
of TBO).

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
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"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

Nope, it's based on time in service. You can use any reliable
means of determining the service time as far as the FAA is concerned.
(Not that TBO means anything to most of us).

What "time" are you referring to? Years/months?

No, you don't have a timer on the tach; but that's not the time we're
talking about. The discussion is "flight time" not engine time (for purpose
of TBO).

You are correct.
One of us is confused - it isn't difficult to confuse me
I originally said:
Flight time for any leg is taken straight from the Hobbs.
Air time is Hobbs minus .2 hour per leg (for runup/taxi etc.)

And air time is what we accumulate to determine when we reach TBO.
I don't know how it works elsewhere - this is how it works in Canada.


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Tony Roberts
PP-ASEL
VFR OTT
Night
Almost Instrument
Cessna 172H C-GICE

"tony roberts" wrote in message
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No, you don't have a timer on the tach; but that's not the time we're
talking about. The discussion is "flight time" not engine time (for
purpose
of TBO).

You are correct.
One of us is confused - it isn't difficult to confuse me

Me too; I was born naked, crying and confused Then things really went to
hell.

I originally said:
Flight time for any leg is taken straight from the Hobbs.
Air time is Hobbs minus .2 hour per leg (for runup/taxi etc.)

And air time is what we accumulate to determine when we reach TBO.
I don't know how it works elsewhere - this is how it works in Canada.

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message ...

"Ron Natalie" wrote in message
. ..

"Tom Sixkiller" wrote in message
...

It scares me to think that there may be aircraft out there with over
2000 TBO which are being sold as less than 1000 TBO.


TBO is based on tach time, not Hobbs time.

Nope, it's based on time in service. You can use any reliable
means of determining the service time as far as the FAA is concerned.
(Not that TBO means anything to most of us).

What "time" are you referring to? Years/months?

Hours in service. While TBO is generally meaningless to us.
Service hours matter for those subject to 100 hour inspections as
well as many AD's that are keyed off hours.