Another Cirrus BRS deployment:

Landing on big high tension lines would probably cut the airplane up. As to the
Interstate and downtown, less damage would probably result than if the aircraft
hit the ground at some speed above stall.

Dave Reinhart


Richard Kaplan wrote:

"Capt.Doug" wrote in message
...

There are less than perfect pilots. Some pilots need crutches. Without the
crutch, 4 people likely would have been seriously injured. The plane came
down amongst pine trees. Even if the crutch was for ineptitude, it was
still
a good thing.

What would happen if the BRS set the airplane down on an interstate highway?
On top of power lines? In a lake? Downtown in a highly populated urban
area?

Is it possible under these conditions that injuries could have occurred in a
BRS landing whereas conventionally handling the emergency could result in no
injuries?

--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

"Peter Gottlieb" wrote in message
et...

"Dave Stadt" wrote in message
...

This kind of BS is shortsighted as it breeds contempt for the law and
the
whole legal process. These same people probably complain about how
there
is
such lack of respect these days for their authority.

It is done to raise revenue. Several municipalities, including the city
of
chicago, have been very up front in saying so.



Ah, yes. Chicago as an example of fine moral leadership.


It's an equal opportunity city. They screw everybody.

David

The seat I ejected in was powered by a 37 mm artillery shell (

Used to keep one on my desk as a curio )


Big John


On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 22:08:04 GMT, David Reinhart
wrote:

It's my understanding that ejection seats aren't allowed on civil aircraft
because the pyrotechnics used are illegal for civillians to own. They're
considered controlled military munitions.

Dave Reinhart


Richard Kaplan wrote:

"Thomas Borchert" wrote in message
...

I don't understand this. We're talking about a life-saving device, people
start using it and some here actually suggest those pilots weren't macho
enough to try to get out of their emergency without being a sissy and
pulling
the chute? This is unbelievable. "Real men don't use chutes"? What BS!

Why do you suppose ejection seats are not permitted on civilian airplanes?
They would be life-saving, too.

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"David Reinhart" wrote in message
...

Landing on big high tension lines would probably cut the airplane up. As
to the
Interstate and downtown, less damage would probably result than if the
aircraft
hit the ground at some speed above stall.

Are you assuming traffic on the interstate?


--------------------
Richard Kaplan, CFII

www.flyimc.com

"Richard Kaplan" wrote in message
s.com...
Yet no one I know, outside of schools like Bondurant, teach anything
more
than hitting the brakes.

I doubt it would ever happen, but wouldn't it be a nice idea to have a
higher speeding limit for drivers who passed a high-speed driver safety
course or some equivalent of driver recurrent training.

If it is safe for the police to exceed the speed limit, why cannot the
public do this as safely if they take appropriate training?

More importantly, is it really plausible that the same speed limit applies
to all drivers regardless of skill?

And naturally the rules are written for the lowest common denominator (i.e.,
your 81 year old grandfather).

David

The seat I ejected in was powered by a 37 mm artillery shell (

Used to keep one on my desk as a curio )


Big John

So you literally were shot in the ass by a 37 mm artillery shell !

Now thats a distinction that carries some real bragging rights down at the
local pub!

take care

Blll

David Reinhart wrote:

It's my understanding that ejection seats aren't allowed on civil aircraft
because the pyrotechnics used are illegal for civillians to own. They're
considered controlled military munitions.

It's possible for private citizens to obtain permits to own military munitions.
They're classed as "destructive devices" and controlled by BATF.

George Patterson
This marriage is off to a shaky start. The groom just asked the band to
play "Your cheatin' heart", and the bride just requested "Don't come home
a'drinkin' with lovin' on your mind".

Tom

Come to Houston. New Mayor just synchronized part of the down town
lights and is working on the rest and he's even a Democrat )

Our new Tooter Ville Trolley, running down main street, is still
hitting cars. Has had around 35 accidents since start of business
early in year (just before Super Bowel) (

Big John

On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 21:35:50 -0700, "Tom Sixkiller"
wrote:

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 at 19:53:19 in message
, Thomas Borchert
wrote:

Both car and GA accident rates have dramatically declined with technical
improvements to safety over the last decades. This expert is simply not supported
by the numbers.

I was convinced that that was the main effect until I read a book called
'Risk' by John Adams. Now I do believe in risk compensation and the
possibility, for example that better and safer cars may lead to more
accidents to pedestrians.

The biggest factor for cars appears to be that the more traffic there
is, then the more the accident rate falls.

In the UK the highest annual road fatalities were in 1926. From then a
steady decline took place until the last couple of years. The only
exception to that was the war years when exceptional factors sent
accidents through the roof. (Example: complete darkness everywhere at
night and vehicles with almost non-existent head lights.)
--
David CL Francis

"Big John" wrote in message
...
Tom

Come to Houston. New Mayor just synchronized part of the down town
lights and is working on the rest and he's even a Democrat )

Synchronizing them to do what? :~)


Our new Tooter Ville Trolley, running down main street, is still
hitting cars. Has had around 35 accidents since start of business
early in year (just before Super Bowel) (

Isn't that part of the downtown entertainment arrangement, bumpercars?



Our town put up traffic lights at a new entrance/exit to the Civic Plaza
that empties onto the main drag. If just ONE car tries to exit, anytime, day
or night, sensors turn that light GREEN and turns the main drag RED...even
if 20 cars are coming down the main drag.

Nice to have one's priorities in line, no? Can't have bureaucrats waiting on
the citizen-scum while trying to get home and watch MTV.