B-52 crashes after takeoff from Guam

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:

As I understand it there are only two causes of aircraft crashes:
pilot error and equipment failure

Which category does hostile ordnance fall under? Or terrorist bombs?

Casady

On Jul 22, 5:51*am, (Richard Casady)
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum

wrote:
As I understand it there are only two causes of aircraft crashes:
pilot error and equipment failure

Which category does hostile ordnance fall under? Or terrorist bombs?

Casady


Hostile ordnance would be pilot error. Terrorist bombs would be
equipment failure.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:


As I understand it there are only two causes of aircraft crashes:
pilot error and equipment failure

No, you can get done in by a ground controller after equipment
failure.

Sort of adding the ultimate insult to injury.

Have they found the crew yet ?

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says...
On Mon, 21 Jul 2008 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Jack Linthicum
wrote:


As I understand it there are only two causes of aircraft crashes:
pilot error and equipment failure

No, you can get done in by a ground controller after equipment
failure.

If you don't have a collision-avoidance system, you can get done
in by a ground controller without equipment failure.

If a pilot follows directions to fly into a cloud, the pilot
error might be considered as placing too much trust in the
ground controller. Unavoidable these days if you're going to
fly IFR, though.

Sort of adding the ultimate insult to injury.


Mark Borgerson

george wrote:
Have they found the crew yet ?

Last update is 2 dead, 4 MIA.

On Jul 22, 11:19 am, Tiger wrote:
george wrote:
Have they found the crew yet ?

Last update is 2 dead, 4 MIA.

Bugger

On Jul 21, 11:30 am, wrote:


Week's ARES blog reports that the last crash of a B-52 was in 1994;
that accident was blamed on pilot error.

'pilot error' is too soft a term for what happened in 1994, 'pilot
insanity' is probably more appropriate for that incident, which was no
reflection on the actual safety of the plane.

If IIRC that stupid asshole, put a serious roll moment ending
in a bank attempt near 75 degrees, totally uncoordinated and
slipped the B52 into the ground in a few seconds, apparently
showing off....Evel Kinevel in a B52...a sickening event.
Ken

Latest update as of 20 minutes ago (as per Yahoo) has the report that
three crew members have died and that three more are still missing.
The good news is that search and sea conditions in the area are
apparently good if anyone is alive out there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/...W0WAVVcjxH2ocA

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_re_us/
b52_crash;_ylt=App8_Af5UQZI9mW0WAVVcjxH2ocA

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/...W0WAVVcjxH2ocA

David

David E. Powell wrote:
Latest update as of 20 minutes ago (as per Yahoo) has the report that
three crew members have died and that three more are still missing.
The good news is that search and sea conditions in the area are
apparently good if anyone is alive out there.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/...W0WAVVcjxH2ocA

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/ap_on_re_us/
b52_crash;_ylt=App8_Af5UQZI9mW0WAVVcjxH2ocA

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080722/...W0WAVVcjxH2ocA

David

From the sound of things, there was little time for a ejection. Have
yet to hear of what might be a cause.