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Is it easier now?
Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is
military life easier now than it was then? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? |
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Omaha Beach? You mean where the 29th Inf Div, another NG outfit, was serving as half of the spearhead? You know, the guys who suffered such horrndous casualties in that first wave, such that they located that D-Day Memorial in Bedford, VA? Then again, you could maybe really be thinking about the Guard artillerymen and tankers who fought their way back down the PI, and the survivors of which were among those undergoing the Bataan Death March...you know, during the time you were still a wet-behind-the-ears high schooler, right? Would they be the same Guardsmen you so recently libeled as being worthless during WWII? Brooks Arthur Kramer |
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"ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. The NAZIs were put up against a wall and shot. |
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Art wrote:
"Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Sorry they couldn't make Omaha Beach. IIRC at that time the 45th was somewhere in Italy after the other Beach at Anzio. Got two uncles buried there Art, they were "goof offs" in the National Guard from about 1936 onwards. One was a LTC and the other a SFC. In answer to your question, "Is it easier now? Yes and No, times change, military is now all volunteer, generally smarter, better trained, more specialized equipment, but the job is not easier. War is not easier and hasn't been that way since Ugh and Orf fought it out with stone clubs. Killing is just more efficient now. You never used a periscopic sextant, correct? Well, I never used a GPS in an airplane, but I probably dropped bombs made in the same plant as the ones you dropped, maybe even in the same batch. We used up all the old bombs and the guys now get to drop newer weapons, and find the target a bit easier, but it isn't any easier. The biggest difference that I can determine is that the enemy was easier to identify in your day and the politicians didn't micromanage wars. Rick |
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on 26 Feb 2004 20:44:20 GMT, ArtKramr attempted to say ..... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Yes, I guess your right. I mean the 41st Infantry had an easy time in New Guinea during 1942/43. Or that Provisional Tank battalion that ended up on the Bataan penensula in 1941 as infantry after they ran out of fuel. I mean, they were just National Guard troops.... Not real soldiers, right Art ? -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. |
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Subject: Is it easier now?
From: Tank Fixer Date: 2/26/04 7:46 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: t In article , on 26 Feb 2004 20:44:20 GMT, ArtKramr attempted to say ..... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Yes, I guess your right. I mean the 41st Infantry had an easy time in New Guinea during 1942/43. Or that Provisional Tank battalion that ended up on the Bataan penensula in 1941 as infantry after they ran out of fuel. I mean, they were just National Guard troops.... Not real soldiers, right Art ? -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. Subject: Is it easier now? From: Tank Fixer Date: 2/26/04 7:46 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: t In article , on 26 Feb 2004 20:44:20 GMT, ArtKramr attempted to say ..... Subject: Is it easier now? From: "Tarver Engineering" Date: 2/26/04 12:13 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: "ArtKramr" wrote in message ... Did military discipline become looser and more liberal since WWI?. Is military life easier now than it was then? Do you mean compared to when the Oklahoma National Guard (45th Infantry) liberated Dachau? "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Yes, I guess your right. I mean the 41st Infantry had an easy time in New Guinea during 1942/43. Or that Provisional Tank battalion that ended up on the Bataan penensula in 1941 as infantry after they ran out of fuel. I mean, they were just National Guard troops.... Not real soldiers, right Art ? At least Bush wasn't hiding in those units right? Arthur Kramer 344th BG 494th BS England, France, Belgium, Holland, Germany Visit my WW II B-26 website at: http://www.coastcomp.com/artkramer |
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In article ,
on 27 Feb 2004 03:49:51 GMT, ArtKramr attempted to say ..... Subject: Is it easier now? From: Tank Fixer Date: 2/26/04 7:46 PM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: t In article , on 26 Feb 2004 20:44:20 GMT, ArtKramr attempted to say ..... "Liberated" ? As I remember it there was no German resistance whatever. All the Germans had left and they just walked in without a shot being fired. Hardly the equivalent of landing on Omaha beach was it?. (sheesh) Yes, I guess your right. I mean the 41st Infantry had an easy time in New Guinea during 1942/43. Or that Provisional Tank battalion that ended up on the Bataan penensula in 1941 as infantry after they ran out of fuel. I mean, they were just National Guard troops.... Not real soldiers, right Art ? At least Bush wasn't hiding in those units right? No, he was flying a rather unforgiving aircraft. Or are you saying the USAF had lax standards for pilot training in the early 70's ? -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. |
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