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Matt Whiting wrote:
Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) -- Message posted via AviationKB.com http://www.aviationkb.com/Uwe/Forums...ation/200809/1 |
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On 09/11/08 10:10, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. Well, I guess that depends on a lot of factors. I fly out of a small non-towered airport out in the farm lands. One day I saw someone driving around the ramp, then stop at a plane and start working on it. Within about 30 minutes there were two squad cars pulling up to check them out. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) -- Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot Cal Aggie Flying Farmers Sacramento, CA |
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JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 2§ 32 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...2----000-.html |
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Mark Hansen wrote:
On 09/11/08 10:10, JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. Well, I guess that depends on a lot of factors. I fly out of a small non-towered airport out in the farm lands. One day I saw someone driving around the ramp, then stop at a plane and start working on it. Within about 30 minutes there were two squad cars pulling up to check them out. Calling about a crime that is possibly in progress is entirely different than calling about an attempted crime that occurred at some unknown time and in some unknown place and left nothing missing. Do you really not understand the difference in these scenarios? |
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Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180) TITLE 18 PART I CHAPTER 2§ 32 http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...2----000-.html Do you have a point to make? |
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JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote:
Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. That was my experience exactly. I had a KX165 stolen from my 182 around 1998. The police had zero interest in the theft other than giving me what I needed for the insurance claim. The really interesting part is that I bought a used KX165 from one of the avionics shops in Florida (I forget the name now, but one of the larger ones not a fly-by-night outfit) and, you guessed it, found that it was MY radio! I thought the wear on the bezel looked a little too familiar and a serial number checked confirmed it. I called the avionics retailed and they had bought it yellow-tagged from a smaller avionics shop in Ohio. I called them and they had failing memory and couldn't remember where they got it. I reported it to the NY state police and they couldn't have cared less. They said that for the value in question it wasn't worth their while. They suspected it was stolen by someone driving west on route 17 which runs right by our airport and then fenced the next day to the Ohio shop who asked no questions and probably paid in cash. Matt |
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On Sep 11, 6:03 pm, Matt Whiting wrote:
JGalban via AviationKB.com wrote: Matt Whiting wrote: Given what little you know about the attempt, I would do nothing. I think reporting this would simply we wasting the time of the police. I agree. Since you don't know when or where it happened, and nothing was taken, the cops are going to have zero interest in this. When I actually had an avionics theft back in '96, I couldn't even get the cops to come out to the airport. They just took a report over the phone so I could put in an insurance claim. In real life, all of those ominous signs at the airport about it being a federal offense to tamper with aircraft are just window dressing. If it's just a property crime, no one really cares. That was my experience exactly. I had a KX165 stolen from my 182 around 1998. The police had zero interest in the theft other than giving me what I needed for the insurance claim. The really interesting part is that I bought a used KX165 from one of the avionics shops in Florida (I forget the name now, but one of the larger ones not a fly-by-night outfit) and, you guessed it, found that it was MY radio! I thought the wear on the bezel looked a little too familiar and a serial number checked confirmed it. I called the avionics retailed and they had bought it yellow-tagged from a smaller avionics shop in Ohio. I called them and they had failing memory and couldn't remember where they got it. I reported it to the NY state police and they couldn't have cared less. They said that for the value in question it wasn't worth their while. They suspected it was stolen by someone driving west on route 17 which runs right by our airport and then fenced the next day to the Ohio shop who asked no questions and probably paid in cash. Matt So just my own curiosity, couldn't you press charges of selling stolen goods? Lou |
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"Lou" wrote ... "Matt Whiting" wrote: I reported it to the NY state police and they couldn't have cared less. They said that for the value in question it wasn't worth their while. They suspected it was stolen by someone driving west on route 17 which runs right by our airport and then fenced the next day to the Ohio shop who asked no questions and probably paid in cash. So just my own curiosity, couldn't you press charges of selling stolen goods? Criminal charges are not brought to the Court by civilians. The insurance claim cited means that the Insurance Co probably had the biggest loss in this. They may also have the means to convince the Ohio authorities to investigate the shop. If the owner is sloppy, he may still have some other stolen product laying on shelves. But the interstate nature of the items means the locals will need assistance from the Feds, who typically look down on these small cases. Real life isn't like TV, where people in authority are always competent and highly motivated. |
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Mike Isaksen wrote:
"Lou" wrote ... "Matt Whiting" wrote: I reported it to the NY state police and they couldn't have cared less. They said that for the value in question it wasn't worth their while. They suspected it was stolen by someone driving west on route 17 which runs right by our airport and then fenced the next day to the Ohio shop who asked no questions and probably paid in cash. So just my own curiosity, couldn't you press charges of selling stolen goods? Criminal charges are not brought to the Court by civilians. The insurance claim cited means that the Insurance Co probably had the biggest loss in this. They may also have the means to convince the Ohio authorities to investigate the shop. If the owner is sloppy, he may still have some other stolen product laying on shelves. But the interstate nature of the items means the locals will need assistance from the Feds, who typically look down on these small cases. Real life isn't like TV, where people in authority are always competent and highly motivated. As it was a federal crime you should have contacted the federal authorities. You have at least two companies involved in interstate trade of stolen goods. That is a crime over and above the law I listed up-thread. |
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Gig 601Xl Builder wrote:
Mike Isaksen wrote: "Lou" wrote ... "Matt Whiting" wrote: I reported it to the NY state police and they couldn't have cared less. They said that for the value in question it wasn't worth their while. They suspected it was stolen by someone driving west on route 17 which runs right by our airport and then fenced the next day to the Ohio shop who asked no questions and probably paid in cash. So just my own curiosity, couldn't you press charges of selling stolen goods? Criminal charges are not brought to the Court by civilians. The insurance claim cited means that the Insurance Co probably had the biggest loss in this. They may also have the means to convince the Ohio authorities to investigate the shop. If the owner is sloppy, he may still have some other stolen product laying on shelves. But the interstate nature of the items means the locals will need assistance from the Feds, who typically look down on these small cases. Real life isn't like TV, where people in authority are always competent and highly motivated. As it was a federal crime you should have contacted the federal authorities. You have at least two companies involved in interstate trade of stolen goods. That is a crime over and above the law I listed up-thread. Sorry Mike that reply was more to Matt than you. |
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