What Airplane Is This?

"Dave Deep" wrote in message
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They are upsidedown when you turn the pics over def B24s.

I agree, but which model? There is an unusual arrangement of blisters and
windows, and the framing for the glazing of the foremost position is upswept
unlike any with which I am familiar.
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Eugene Griessel wrote:
"Dave Deep" wrote:

They are upsidedown when you turn the pics over def B24s.

By jove, I think you've got it! Yes, I agree.

Eugene L Griessel

Teamwork is essential. It allows you to blame somebody else.

I don't think he has it. I say Airship gondolas, why else would there
be a rail around it ? Flip them over and picture a gasbag on top of it

I think you're onto something. I took the railing to be some sort of antenna.
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I don't think he has it. I say Airship gondolas, why else would there
be a rail around it ? Flip them over and picture a gasbag on top of it


I think you're on to something with that. Take a look at this image:

http://www.bluejacket.com/usn/images..._blimp_zpg.jpg

Airship Gondolas - probably from the Goodyear XZP5K / XS2G-1 series (19
built - First Flight 1954)

Stats:

Length 285 ft.
Gas Volume: 650,000 cu ft.
Crew: 8
Max Speed: 85 MPH +
Power: Two Wright 1300-4 Cyclone 7's 800 Hp Each


Source: United States Navy Aircraft since 1911;
Gordon Swanborough & Peter Bowers
Naval Institute Press 1990 edition

Jack G.

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Eugene Griessel wrote:
"Dave Deep" wrote:

They are upsidedown when you turn the pics over def B24s.

By jove, I think you've got it! Yes, I agree.

Eugene L Griessel

Teamwork is essential. It allows you to blame somebody else.

I don't think he has it. I say Airship gondolas, why else would there
be a rail around it ? Flip them over and picture a gasbag on top of it

Good Find! I think you have nailed it.

(Another correction is that the item is a "car" rather than "gondola").

Jack G.



"Vanwall" wrote in message
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I think they might be from K-series Blimps. Take a look he

http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=1

http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=3

In article Gzfsg.3069$pB.1825@trnddc06,
"Jack G" wrote:

Good Find! I think you have nailed it.

(Another correction is that the item is a "car" rather than "gondola").

Jack G.



"Vanwall" wrote in message
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I think they might be from K-series Blimps. Take a look he

http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=1

http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=3


Here's another image that supports the car / gondola theory:

http://www.americanheritage.com/arti.../2006_1_12.sht
ml
(scroll down to the second picture)

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NJE

In article Gzfsg.3069$pB.1825@trnddc06,
"Jack G" wrote:

Good Find! I think you have nailed it.
(Another correction is that the item is a "car" rather than "gondola").

I concur. Thanks everyone for all the great ideas & links.

-john-

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Eugene Griessel wrote:

Dale wrote:

In article ,
"John A. Weeks III" wrote:

They are not B-24 or PB4Y-2s. My bet would be on a Shorts
Sunderland...Kermit has one that he flew into Fantasy of Flight.

Definitely not a Sunderland - or any of the Empire series of boats
either. Although that was my first guess after B-24. Nor a Kawanishi
Emily either. Very intriguing - the fuselages do appear to have
suffered considerable modifications.

My first thought was that it was a pair of P4Y-2 noses - the USCG had some
modified with a rather blunt greenhouse up front, instead of the Erco
turret.
But that didn't quite fit.
Then I pondered a bit more - those airfoil shaped areas near the top aren't
for antenna fairings - there's too much structure there.
But those openings aren't enough for wings.
I think what we've got here is a pair of Blimp Gondola foward sections -
either K-ship (ZPK) or N-Ship (ZPG) - they both had similar shapes, but
different sizes - the N ships had 2 story gondolas.

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Pete Stickney
Without data, all you have is an opinion

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NJE wrote:
In article Gzfsg.3069$pB.1825@trnddc06,
"Jack G" wrote:

Good Find! I think you have nailed it.

(Another correction is that the item is a "car" rather than "gondola").

Jack G.



"Vanwall" wrote in message
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I think they might be from K-series Blimps. Take a look he


http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=1


http://www.moffettfieldmuseum.org/ga...album=10&pos=3


Here's another image that supports the car / gondola theory:

http://www.americanheritage.com/arti.../2006_1_12.sht
ml
(scroll down to the second picture)

--
NJ

OK, I nailed it, what is the prize ?

A virtual hero cookie. :^)
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