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"Larry Smith" wrote in message ...
"pacplyer" wrote in message om... nafod40 wrote Packie, the operative words are "arctic" and "antarctic." Can't I learn you nothin? So far, not a soul has spelled these words correctly. "Larry Smith" wrote in message ... "pacplyer" wrote in message om... nafod40 wrote Packie, the operative words are "arctic" and "antarctic." Can't I learn you nothin? So far, not a soul has spelled these words correctly. Hey Latchless, I is what I is. A glorified truck driver. I spelt it like it sowns. And here I thought someone was going to attack my rendition of "bueracrat." Didn't see the geographic ones. By all means Latch, please continue to correct us. Where else but RAH can you get a lawyer to spell check you for free? ;-) pacplyer (learnt ma spelling reading aviation magazines) |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 08:23:19 -0600, RR Urban wrote:
Sydney dear, You and Stella have every right to be super proud of women aviators, especially in the wake of this Jon Johanson fiasco. Too many times, including now... You gals get the short end of the stick. May I apologize for the chauvinistic behavior that might be attributed to me or my chauvinistic buddies. Kudos to Polly... for saving a dumb ass and GA from further embarassment. Barnyard BOb -- John Ousterhout replied: Who are you? and what have you done with Bob? Shhhh! Do we really care? :-) Russell Kent |
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In article , BWB CIA wrote:
AVweb quotes an EAA staffer in saying that they don't even stock avgas down there. What's needed is space on a cargo plane for hauling it down there, and I suspect there's more too it than just throwing some jerry cans on a pallet. Even so, it sounds like the NSF is being its old hidebound self. There's a good book out, written by an ex-Navy pilot who used be one of the Hercules pilots down the _Flying Upside Down_, by Mark A. Hinebaugh. He really makes the NSF (the agency in charge of US operations in Antarctica) sound like a bunch of idiots. Ron Wanttaja They are. I worked on this problem with the Governor of Nevada last week and many retired politicians that I know. They applied a lot of pressure but really got nowhere. I am out of town right now but I heard from Jarvis that Jon got out of there by getting fuel from an English woman on an Around the world flight who was on the continent at the same time. Anyone know the details? Bill Yeah. She did _proper_ "plan ahead", and had _her_own_ fuel at McMurdo. Had equipment troubles, and had to abort the around-the-world attempt. See: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8183083%255E1702,00.html (beware possible line-wrap) |
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(StellaStar) wrote in message ...
heard from Jarvis that Jon got out of there by getting fuel from an English woman No problem. A girl bailed him out, very graciously. She's a 99. The Flyin Wimmen will come through for you! Here's the latest on her...and I rather wonder why we don't hear much about her project. http://www.worldwings.org/ Well, NewsLady, you'd know best but... ....my guess is, *she plans too well* Good planning and good decision making, don't seem to be news. Sydney (so when's the next trip?) |
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Ed Wischmeyer wrote in message ...
entire legions of lawyers waiting to sue the US Government for supplying him the wrong type of fuel? As for suing folks, I don't think Jon's that kind of guy. I've met him several times, and he's got a whole lot of class, something that many RAHers would do well to emulate. Ed, With all respect, if you or I or "The World's Classiest Pilot" (whoever he or she may be) bites it while flying, whether or not someone gets sued will have little to do with our class or what kind of guy we are. It will have everything to do with factors beyond our control, mostly our surviving kin and whatever decisions they might make under the combined influence of grief and legal advice. FWIW, Sydney |
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Eric Miller wrote: "Robert Bonomi" wrote in message news:a9d88$3fe12310 Available reportage indicates that 'higher than anticipated/forecast' headwinds were encountered, and after pressing to a point where it became clear that he could not complete the original flight, he diverted to a *pre-planned* emergency abort point. Available evidence indicates he "assumed", *without* *confirming*, that persons there "would" provide assistance for him to get the rest of the way 'back to civilization'. I dunno... let's look at this emperically... He diverted to a pre-planned emergency landing site, he obtained fuel, he continued on his way and completed his journey. Forgiveness wins out over permission again! FALSE TO FACT. He got out *only* because somebody (Brit. Polly Vacher)who _did_ properly plan ahead for a flight through that territory HAD ASKED PERMISSION, been granted it, and *HAD*THEIR*OWN*EMERGENCY*FUEL*STORED*THERE*. She encountered weather difficulties, aborted prior to that point, and thus was able to offer her own private stock of emergency fuel to Johanson. The fact that she _did_have_ private fuel stored there is absolute proof that Johanson *could* have done so as well. That fact shoots down any possible defense of Johanson's actions as regards *competent* contingency planning. Johanson is enough of a bozo that he _will_not_ "learn from experience", either. He has publicly stated that on a future attempt he "will _not_ do anything different". see: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8183083%255E1702,00.html |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 21:52:46 +0000, Robert Bonomi wrote:
In article , BWB CIA wrote: AVweb quotes an EAA staffer in saying that they don't even stock avgas down there. What's needed is space on a cargo plane for hauling it down there, and I suspect there's more too it than just throwing some jerry cans on a pallet. Even so, it sounds like the NSF is being its old hidebound self. There's a good book out, written by an ex-Navy pilot who used be one of the Hercules pilots down the _Flying Upside Down_, by Mark A. Hinebaugh. He really makes the NSF (the agency in charge of US operations in Antarctica) sound like a bunch of idiots. Ron Wanttaja They are. I worked on this problem with the Governor of Nevada last week and many retired politicians that I know. They applied a lot of pressure but really got nowhere. I am out of town right now but I heard from Jarvis that Jon got out of there by getting fuel from an English woman on an Around the world flight who was on the continent at the same time. Anyone know the details? Bill Yeah. She did _proper_ "plan ahead", and had _her_own_ fuel at McMurdo. Had equipment troubles, and had to abort the around-the-world attempt. See: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8183083%255E1702,00.html (beware possible line-wrap) She, like Jon Johanson, had made sure that fuel was available at all her planned stops, but she did not make sure that fuel was available at all possible diversion airfields (the list of planned legs on her web site shows that McMurdo was a planned fuel stop). She, like Jon Johanson, ran into higher than expected wind over Antartica, and had to divert. She, like Jon Johanson, diverted to an airfield that did not have fuel for her (she went back to her destination, but she had already used all the fuel in her fuel cache). Please explain how her planning was any better than Jon Johanson's. http://www.worldwings.org/route.htm http://worldwings.mantaur.co.uk/diary.aspx?mode=D&ID=226 http://worldwings.mantaur.co.uk/diary.aspx?mode=D&ID=228 http://worldwings.mantaur.co.uk/diary.aspx?mode=D&ID=230 http://worldwings.mantaur.co.uk/diary.aspx?mode=D&ID=232 -- Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit) Ottawa, Canada http://go.phpwebhosting.com/~khorton/rv8/ e-mail: khorton02(_at_)rogers(_dot_)com |
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Robert Bonomi wrote: In article , Eric Miller wrote: "Robert Bonomi" wrote in message news:a9d88$3fe12310 Available reportage indicates that 'higher than anticipated/forecast' headwinds were encountered, and after pressing to a point where it became clear that he could not complete the original flight, he diverted to a *pre-planned* emergency abort point. Available evidence indicates he "assumed", *without* *confirming*, that persons there "would" provide assistance for him to get the rest of the way 'back to civilization'. I dunno... let's look at this emperically... He diverted to a pre-planned emergency landing site, he obtained fuel, he continued on his way and completed his journey. Forgiveness wins out over permission again! FALSE TO FACT. He got out *only* because somebody (Brit. Polly Vacher)who _did_ properly plan ahead for a flight through that territory HAD ASKED PERMISSION, been granted it, and *HAD*THEIR*OWN*EMERGENCY*FUEL*STORED*THERE*. She encountered weather difficulties, aborted prior to that point, and thus was able to offer her own private stock of emergency fuel to Johanson. The fact that she _did_have_ private fuel stored there is absolute proof that Johanson *could* have done so as well. That fact shoots down any possible defense of Johanson's actions as regards *competent* contingency planning. Johanson is enough of a bozo that he _will_not_ "learn from experience", either. He has publicly stated that on a future attempt he "will _not_ do anything different". see: http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,8183083%255E1702,00.html So what have you done besides write like a moron? That "bozo" as you call him has done more with his RV-4 than you can ever hope to do with your pitiful life. People like ought to go crawl in a hole and pull the dirt in. BTW what is it that you fly and have built with your own hands? Lets hear about your great accomplishments in aviation. |
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On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 15:12:54 -0600, Russell Kent
wrote: Sydney dear, You and Stella have every right to be super proud of women aviators, especially in the wake of this Jon Johanson fiasco. Too many times, including now... You gals get the short end of the stick. May I apologize for the chauvinistic behavior that might be attributed to me or my chauvinistic buddies. Kudos to Polly... for saving a dumb ass and GA from further embarassment. Barnyard BOb -- John Ousterhout replied: Who are you? and what have you done with Bob? Shhhh! Do we really care? :-) Russell Kent ++++++++++++++++++++ Hey Jaun.... Nothing like having friends. Know where I can find some? ) Barnyard BOb -- |
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