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Peter R. wrote:
Ron Lee wrote: Peter, why are people there anti-GPS? Most likely because in its current form, GPS availability is controlled by the US Gov't. If the roles were reversed, I might also share this sentiment. And, the U.S. pays for it all. |
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Thomas Borchert wrote:
Steven, So an extremely accurate navigational system is available and paid for completely by another nation. What's not to like about that? Uhm, the somewhat unpredictable boss, George Bush. While I would think it unconceivable to switch GPS off because of the economic consequences, with this guy, you never know what god will tell him to do next or some such nonsense. I still don't think that's the reason for an anti-GPS sentiment in the UK - if it exists. Bush, as bad as he is, would create major havoc with the U.S. air carriers if he shut down the system. Sometimes you folks give Bush too much credit. I recall the Europeans making essentially the same arguements when Clinton was president. Folks over there simply should refuse to use the U.S. system and build their own. |
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Folks over there simply should refuse to use the U.S. system and build their own. They are. It's called "Galileo." -- Peter ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Peter wrote:
Yes, and the project is driven by a proposed charging scheme, where a low accuracy signal (roughly equiv to the US one) is free and a higher accuracy signal will be charged for. The integrity service will be fee-based. Since the free signal from the USA is plenty good enough for en-route navigation of cars, boats, and planes, it is pretty obvious that any attempt to raise money from planes would have to involve authorised GPS approaches being conditional on the carriage of a prepaid decoder for the "better" signal. Seems like one possible solution. What I don't get is who will bother to pay. ILS is nearly everywhere, and nonprecision NDB/VOR approaches are OK for most of the rest. Any commercial transport will still need to carry all the equipment. Concur Any national security crisis bad enough to cause the US one to be turned off will also turn off the Euro one. It's typical European political stupidity. Maybe not stupidity. Perhaps more an ego thing. There's also a Russian system, Glonass; not sure where it's at. IMO, GLONASS is not a viable system. Ron Lee |
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Gerald Sylvester wrote: installation and servicing, etc. For instance, a certified IFR GPS will definitely require more testing during the design and release as well as during the installation than a non-certified unit. Is this apparent to the user, no, it is not. I would be willing to bet that Garmin shares a significant amount of code between their panels and their handhelds, at least when it comes to the 396. And, the Jepp data is the Jepp data. Sure, there is no certification document with which handhelds must comply, but I just don't think it's worth losing any sleep over, or even giving much though to, for enroute navigation. I just don't care. In almost 10 years of using various hand held GPS units in the airplane for enroute navigation, I have never ended up in the wrong place. That's certainly more than I can say for my ADF. JKG |
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Jonathan Goodish wrote: In almost 10 years of using various hand held GPS units in the airplane for enroute navigation, I have never ended up in the wrong place. That's certainly more than I can say for my ADF. Be careful who hears you say that. You're using logic. The FAA doesn't like it when you do that. |
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Bush, as bad as he is, would create major havoc with the U.S. air
carriers if he shut down the system. The air carriers are not really major users of GPS, AFAIK. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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Greg,
Which is why "Galileo" is being developed. It irks the Europeans to no end that a functional, accurate system can be offered for FREE - all the more so if it's paid for by the US. Actually, it irks some few but big European companies that they are not profiting from GPS. That's why they make the EU ask them to buil their own system... -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) |
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