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Twin take off on one engine?
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Mike Granby wrote:
So you could disable it and placard it inop? Sure, just put a big ole trash bag over it and write "inoperative" on it. LOL -- Dallas |
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Twin take off on one engine?
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Dallas wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Mike Granby wrote: So you could disable it and placard it inop? Sure, just put a big ole trash bag over it and write "inoperative" on it. LOL I noticed that neither prop was feathered and that the landing gear was down -- not a healthy condition for single-engine operation! How was one engine inop? did it not pass mag check? did he lose it during takeoff roll? -- Remove _'s from email address to talk to me. |
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Twin take off on one engine?
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 00:23:11 -0500, Dallas wrote in
: ... the sketchy details are he http://www.brantford.com/news.cfm?pa...articleId=4997 I'd say he's going to need at least a couple of new engine mounts. And some touch-up paint. :-O Another source says the engine quit on takeoff: http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...aspx?e=1713744 http://www.brantfordexpositor.ca/Art...aspx?e=1715485 "The Transportation Safety Board is investigating the cause of a plane crash near the Brantford Airport in which a pilot was lucky to walk away with only minor injuries. "TSB investigators completed Tuesday their inspection of the crash scene in a corn field just off a runway at the airport, where a twin-engine Piper Aztec crashed at about 5 p. m. the evening before, then turned to other parts of the investigation. "The plane, flown by an unidentifi ed 50-year-old male pilot, had just left the runway when one engine seized for an unknown reason. The aircraft struck a pine tree, then crashed in a cornfield at the western border of the airport territory." Marty -- Big-8 newsgroups: humanities.*, misc.*, news.*, rec.*, sci.*, soc.*, talk.* See http://www.big-8.org for info on how to add or remove newsgroups. |
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Twin take off on one engine?
"Dallas" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Mike Granby wrote: So you could disable it and placard it inop? Sure, just put a big ole trash bag over it and write "inoperative" on it. LOL Chuckle If you really want to "disable" it, you could always pour some concrete into the spark plug holes. That would also solve any windmilling problems, too. ggg -- Jim in NC |
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Twin take off on one engine?
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 11:01:32 -0400, Orval Fairbairn wrote:
How was one engine inop? did it not pass mag check? did he lose it during takeoff roll? Check further down this thread and you'll see that looks like another case of the usual clueless aviation reporting. -- Dallas |
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Twin take off on one engine?
Morgans wrote:
"Dallas" wrote in message ... On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 04:47:43 -0700 (PDT), Mike Granby wrote: So you could disable it and placard it inop? Sure, just put a big ole trash bag over it and write "inoperative" on it. LOL Chuckle If you really want to "disable" it, you could always pour some concrete into the spark plug holes. That would also solve any windmilling problems, too. ggg I hear that a gallon of sodium silicate ("Waterglass") is the preferred fluid - at least for clunker refunds.... the engine runs for 10 seconds to several minutes - then seizes. Brian W |
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Twin take off on one engine?
On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 19:40:51 -0400, Peter Dohm wrote:
then the questions would center on the preflight calculations regaerding density altitude, gradient, distance to obstacles, If you Google Earth CYFD you'll see it's 98% farmland, except off RWY 11 about 3,000 feet, there's looks to be a small stand of pine trees. This is still a weird crash... Why couldn't he continue his take off with one engine and 3,000 feet?... Why couldn't he bank a little to the left and avoid the trees in favor of some pretty nice uncultivated farmland? -- Dallas |
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Twin take off on one engine?
On Aug 31, 11:35*am, Clark wrote:
Robert Moore wrote 85.247: Clark wrote Considering a 747 has been fairied on one engine I doubt that very seriously. You probably meant to say "with one engine inop". BTW, it's called "ferried", past tense of "ferry". Doubt it all you like. Your doubt won't change the fact that it occurred. The aircraft was grounded at some eastern Europe airport with three dead engines and it turned out to be feasible and cheaper to fly the plane to maintenance rather than bring the maintenance to the plane. I believe it was written up in Flying magazine. Sorry you don't get the joke of a single engine operative 747 imitating a fairy. I imagine that under the right circumstances a twin might legally depart on one engine. If the FAA would issue a "Ferry Permit", also doubtful. Let's see here now. It's happened in the past and somehow it's doubtful that it'll happen again. Hmmm, can't agree with you there. Bob Moore ATP B-707, B-727 CFI ASEL-IA -- --- there should be a "sig" here According to the data I can find, the 747 can't climb on one engine so how can it take off? Cheers |
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Twin take off on one engine?
On Sep 3, 3:47*pm, Clark wrote:
"Flaps_50!" wrote in news:d7b4faf4-4167-46cd-8692- : According to the data I can find, the 747 can't climb on one engine so how can it take off? Cheers Hmmm, empty weight is about 360,000 lbs plus a little fuel and 50,000 lbs of thrust. It aught to work. I suspect your data are in error or perhaps you're considering a loaded 747. -- --- there should be a "sig" here Yeah, but how *long* would the runway have to be assuming ideal conditions of say 68 F at sea level and head wind of 20mph? Its not just the weight, it's the rolling resistance of the mains as well. What's the longest runway in the world? (Edwards, Groom Lake, Bonneville salt flats notwithstanding). I googled the heck out of it and could not find any thing single engine take off of a 747. |
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On Sep 3, 3:47*pm, Clark wrote:
"Flaps_50!" wrote in news:d7b4faf4-4167-46cd-8692- : According to the data I can find, the 747 can't climb on one engine so how can it take off? Cheers Hmmm, empty weight is about 360,000 lbs plus a little fuel and 50,000 lbs of thrust. It aught to work. I suspect your data are in error or perhaps you're considering a loaded 747. -- --- there should be a "sig" here Here's some good relevent reading: http://www.airliners.net/aviation-fo...ead.main/69428 |
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