Crash near Miami, FL

That was in reference to Republic



"John R. Copeland" wrote in
message .. .
wrote in message
news:ceVpf.1987$LB5.1444@fed1read04...

What's an infinitely long runway?

That reminds me of the pithy old saying, to the effect that
if someone
could build a runway extending all the way around the world,
then Grumman could build an airplane that would need all of
it.

John R. Copeland wrote:
wrote in message news:ceVpf.1987$LB5.1444@fed1read04...

What's an infinitely long runway?


That reminds me of the pithy old saying, to the effect that if someone
could build a runway extending all the way around the world,
then Grumman could build an airplane that would need all of it.

That would be handy for practicing takeoffs and landings without wasting
fuel to go around the patch.

Tim wrote:
Hilton wrote:
Tim wrote:

Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent danger of flying
paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a takeoff flight
path with one engine inoperative.


Not a problem when you're taking off on an infinitely long runway as they
were.

What's an infinitely long runway?

They took off on water with water in front of them for many many miles.

Hilton

wrote:

tscottme wrote:

A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard) crashed during takeoff
near Miami, FL today.

Watching TV coverage of the aftermatch it's certain two things will
happen
after such an event. The TV networks will report a fiery explosion
before
the crash and Mary Shiavo will be on-air demonstrating she's an
ignorant, uh
what's the word, media whore? The TV networks would be better served
just
directly airing the first homeless guy they can find.

Hey did you know that according to MSNBC the Mallard is a
"hydroplane". All
the years I dealt with them I thought they were seaplanes.


Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent danger of flying
paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a takeoff flight
path with one engine inoperative.

The Mallard may well have some unusual flight characteristics that I'm not aware of
but I believe your statement applies to the vast majority of lignt-medium twin
aircraft. In most of these, VMC is higher than stalling speed in take-off
configuration. Any pilot that allows the aircraft to remain in this dangerous
flight realm is asking for problems.
Of course, it appears that the subject aircraft flew several miles after takeoff and
was then reported to be in flames and a wing came off prior to the actual crash, so
I doubt that your comments (or mine) have any bearing whatsoever on this crash.

video clearly shows fuselage impacting with the wing some
distance and on fire,
see link http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/2093752.html


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P



"Mike H" wrote in message
...
|
|
| wrote:
|
| tscottme wrote:
|
| A Chalks Airways Grumman Mallard (Turbine Mallard)
crashed during takeoff
| near Miami, FL today.
|
| Watching TV coverage of the aftermatch it's certain two
things will
| happen
| after such an event. The TV networks will report a
fiery explosion
| before
| the crash and Mary Shiavo will be on-air demonstrating
she's an
| ignorant, uh
| what's the word, media whore? The TV networks would be
better served
| just
| directly airing the first homeless guy they can find.
|
| Hey did you know that according to MSNBC the Mallard is
a
| "hydroplane". All
| the years I dealt with them I thought they were
seaplanes.
|
|
| Then again, maybe someone will focus on the inherent
danger of flying
| paying passengers in an airplane that can't maintain a
takeoff flight
| path with one engine inoperative.
|
| The Mallard may well have some unusual flight
characteristics that I'm not aware of
| but I believe your statement applies to the vast majority
of lignt-medium twin
| aircraft. In most of these, VMC is higher than stalling
speed in take-off
| configuration. Any pilot that allows the aircraft to
remain in this dangerous
| flight realm is asking for problems.
| Of course, it appears that the subject aircraft flew
several miles after takeoff and
| was then reported to be in flames and a wing came off
prior to the actual crash, so
| I doubt that your comments (or mine) have any bearing
whatsoever on this crash.
|

Mike H wrote:

so I doubt that your comments (or mine) have any
bearing whatsoever on this crash.

So it would seem.