Israel Threatens to Hit Damascus-Next step of A Clean Break?:

Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.

I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people intentionally
murdering women and children to be innocent.

Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be innocent
all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7 times more
Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.

Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM declares
killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success because it
kills just one suspect?

Do you have any knowledge of the facts or are you deliberately shilling for
little Israel?

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Jarg wrote:
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What I meant to say is the sooner the Palestinians and people like you stop
their deluded dreaming, the sooner the situation can be resolved. Really,
you just wasted your time describing a bunch of hypotheticals that will not
occur. But hey, if the Palestinians want to wallow for another 50+ years
waiting for this to happen, that is their problem.

What I mean to say is people like you supporting the current rerun of
Kyrstalnacht are no better than those who supported the Nazis.

There is NO possible resolution to the problem because Israel does NOT want a
resolution to the problem.

Israel has never expressed any interest in even the minimum required for peace.
There is no appeasing Israel.

If your point is rejecting hypotheticals then first reject the idea Israel
wants peace. How in the world could millions of Europeans go to Israel and
choose perpetual war if they wanted peace? They perpertual war. It is in their
blood. It is their ideology. It is their culture.

Foreign Jews from Europe began murdering and terror bombing Palestinians in the
early 1930s. They murdered thousands as official policy to drive out 750,000
otheres in 1947-48 as revealed by Israel's own records. They launched a war of
conquest against Egypt in 1956. They attacked Egypt again in early 1967. They
attacked Syria during the 67 war.

Please tell me how it is possible to appease these bloodthirsty animals who
chose perpetual war?

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Robert Kolker wrote:
Jarg wrote:

"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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What I meant to say is the sooner the Palestinians and people like you
stop their deluded dreaming, the sooner the situation can be
resolved. Really, you just wasted your time describing a bunch of
hypotheticals that will not occur. But hey, if the Palestinians want
to wallow for another 50+ years waiting for this to happen, that is
their problem.

The late Abba Eban once said that the Palestneans never miss an
opportunity to miss an opportunity.

And the late Menachim Begin said if he were a Palestinian he would be fighting
Israel. He also said in the same circumstance that he would never sign of deal
with Israel as Israelis could not be trusted to honor any agreement.

For example, Israel reneged on the Oslo Accords in less than a week.

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Jarg wrote:
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The late Abba Eban once said that the Palestneans never miss an
opportunity to miss an opportunity.

I do pity the Palestinians. They could already have most of what they need,
if not what they want. I don't understand how people can be willing to put
up with so much suffering needlessly, and pointlessly.

If you do not understand that explain to me why so many millions of Jews chose
to live under daily threat to their lives and in a state of perpetual war.

What kind of person enjoys being in a constant state of war and threat of
violent death?

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Tankfixer wrote:
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Palestinians, without any treaties, have been trying to get their property
back non-stop since 1948.
Maybe they shouldn't have run away when thier Syrian and Egyptian
brothers attacked Isreal ?

Why do idiots keep repeating Zionist propaganda?

Why are you an avowed Nazi ?

The current siege of Gaza exonerates Krystalnacht as a legitimate response.

First off, fleeing a war zone is normal human behavior and does not abrogate
property rights.

Yet not all fled, and have become Isreali citizens.
How can that be ?

They are citizens in the same sense that Blacks in the old south were citizens.
Meanwhile politicians consider ways to force them to leave Israel.

Second, around 1930 the Zionists openly adopted a policy of murdering and
expeling Palestinians. Israeli historians using Israeli records have established
the Zionists openly implemented that policy.

Grow up and get a life.

PKB, sonny

Zionism is be its own definition and policy and open admission a conspiracy of
mass murderers. Anyone who supports Zionism is also a mass murderer.

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Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
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Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
mumbled
Palestinians, without any treaties, have been trying to get their property
back non-stop since 1948.

Maybe they shouldn't have run away when thier Syrian and Egyptian
brothers attacked Isreal ?

AND

By genetics Palestians are brothers of the Jews from Judea who converted. They
are not genetically related to Syrians or Egyptians and neither they nor
Sepharidic Jews are related to the Ashkenazi converts from Eastern Europe.

Well that explains why the Syrians nor Egyptians want to take in the
Palistinians...

You try to avoid the point. Ashkenazi Jews have not connection to bibleland
except as converts. OTOH, Palestinians have the ancestral rights the atheist
Zionists claim to have.

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Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
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Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
mumbled
Palestinians, without any treaties, have been trying to get their property
back non-stop since 1948.
Maybe they shouldn't have run away when thier Syrian and Egyptian
brothers attacked Isreal ?

Why do idiots keep repeating Zionist propaganda?

Why are you an avowed Nazi ?

The current siege of Gaza exonerates Krystalnacht as a legitimate response.

So two wrongs make a right ?



First off, fleeing a war zone is normal human behavior and does not abrogate
property rights.

Yet not all fled, and have become Isreali citizens.
How can that be ?

They are citizens in the same sense that Blacks in the old south were citizens.
Meanwhile politicians consider ways to force them to leave Israel.

Must make your heart warm then.




Second, around 1930 the Zionists openly adopted a policy of murdering and
expeling Palestinians. Israeli historians using Israeli records have established
the Zionists openly implemented that policy.

Grow up and get a life.

PKB, sonny

Zionism is be its own definition and policy and open admission a conspiracy of
mass murderers. Anyone who supports Zionism is also a mass murderer.

Only in your feeble little mind perhaps

In article , jull43
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Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
@tampabay.REMover.rr.com mumbled
Tankfixer wrote:
In article , jull43
mumbled
Palestinians, without any treaties, have been trying to get their property
back non-stop since 1948.

Maybe they shouldn't have run away when thier Syrian and Egyptian
brothers attacked Isreal ?

AND

By genetics Palestians are brothers of the Jews from Judea who converted. They
are not genetically related to Syrians or Egyptians and neither they nor
Sepharidic Jews are related to the Ashkenazi converts from Eastern Europe.

Well that explains why the Syrians nor Egyptians want to take in the
Palistinians...

You try to avoid the point. Ashkenazi Jews have not connection to bibleland
except as converts. OTOH, Palestinians have the ancestral rights the atheist
Zionists claim to have.

You can't form a sentance without spouting hate, can you ?

"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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Jarg wrote:
"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
...

They are the innocent party. Zionists are now and forever the guilty
party. That is a fact.

I don't think any reasonable person would consider the people
intentionally murdering women and children to be innocent.

Reasonable people accept colateral damage from lawful attacks to be
innocent all the time. Israel does it all the time. Israel has killed 7
times more Palestinian children than Israeli children have been killed.


Perhaps if that were true, but the Palestinian bombers are targeting
civilians. It is not "colateral damage."



Are you trying to pretend Israel does not do this even when the PM
declares killing 16 innocents of whom 5 are childen an unqualifed success
because it kills just one suspect?



You're trying to make this an either/or choice, which it is not. I didn't
say the Israelis don't have blood on there hands. That is true for any
nation that has engaged in war. But I will say that there is a difference
in that the Palestinians are targeting innocents, whereas the Israelis have
caused civilian casualties in the course of fighting militants.

Jarg

"Matt Giwer" wrote in message
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Jarg wrote:
"Robert Kolker" wrote in message
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The late Abba Eban once said that the Palestneans never miss an
opportunity to miss an opportunity.

I do pity the Palestinians. They could already have most of what they
need, if not what they want. I don't understand how people can be
willing to put up with so much suffering needlessly, and pointlessly.

If you do not understand that explain to me why so many millions of Jews
chose to live under daily threat to their lives and in a state of
perpetual war.

What kind of person enjoys being in a constant state of war and threat of
violent death?


I doubt they do, although due to there overwhelming advantages in military
strength the odds of an Israeli dying a violent death at the hands of a
Palestinian are quite low, and the average Israeli's quality of life is much
much better than that of the average Palestinian.

Jarg