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John Halliwell wrote:
In article , Grantland writes A shaped charge would be different. 'Moot though, if there were nets. The whole of the Upkeep charge was effectively a 'shaped charge' though, pressed right up against the dam wall with hundreds of millions of tons of water behind it. The whole operation depended on the ability to keep it pressed against the wall. -- John You're confusing Monroe effect with containment. Grantland |
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In article , "Keith Willshaw"
wrote: "steve gallacci" wrote in message ... John Halliwell wrote: In article , Tony Williams writes I recall being told, in my target-shooting days, of a range which had a lake between the firing point and the targets. On a calm day with no ripples, they found that if they aimed at the reflection of the target the bullets would ricochet off the water and hit the target. Of course, the angle was very shallow. There's a scene in The Dam Busters where the guy playing Barnes Wallis explains that in Nelson's day the RN gunners used to bounce cannon balls off the water to improve their effectiveness. No idea if correct or why though? To get a hit right at the water line. The solid shot punched a hole only so big, and a waterline hit was the most effective way to get the opposition's attention. Maybe but standard RN tactic of the day were to kill the maximum numbers of the enemy crew before boarding and capturing the ship. Prize money was a very popular addition to the income of all on board. I guess that depends on whether you're after a merchant or ship of the line. -- Harry Andreas Engineering raconteur |
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"Harry Andreas" wrote in message ... .. Maybe but standard RN tactic of the day were to kill the maximum numbers of the enemy crew before boarding and capturing the ship. Prize money was a very popular addition to the income of all on board. I guess that depends on whether you're after a merchant or ship of the line. The main difference was that merchantmen could usually be persuaded to heave to without having a broadside fired at them. Prize money was assessed on ship and cargo and in the case of a ship of war that ajudication was done by a vice-admiralty court. if the source I just found is right prize money before 1808 was distributed as follows 12.5% -- to the flag officer commanding 25.0% -- to the commander of the capturing vessel 12.5% -- distributed to the master and lieutenants 12.5% -- distributed to the other warrant sea officers 12.5% -- distributed to the inferior and petty officers 25.0% -- distributed to the "private men", seamen, and marines Merchant ships and their cargos had ready markets so usually paid better than warships but a 72 gun ship of the line could still be worth several thousand pounds, a colossal sum in the 18th century Keith |
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Bruce Gamble's "Black Sheep" recounts an incident where an F4U strafed a PT
boat, knocking out an engine and killing three sailors. The twin .50 mount gunner returned a "brief burst" shooting down the F4U. Effective weapon. Chris Mark |
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the Mk IV that seems to have been hit by a heavy shell from NGFS , the largest piece of wreckage left is the engine block. Could also have been a 50Kg demolition charge. |
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