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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
On Jun 8, 5:45*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
The current known safe threshold for ash in jet engines is zero. In that there is volcanic ash at non-zero concentrations throughout the entire troposphere and often well higher, to avoid risk of failure we had all better stay on the surface. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
On Jun 8, 4:45*am, Mxsmanic wrote:
Assuming that aircraft flying over the ocean will always be able to glide to land after an ash encounter is irresponsible. Airplanes never fall out of the skies short of catostraphic damage... Even over the Atlantic, they can glide. Mighty expensive glider, but they can glide and it may be a splashdown but they can land. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
On Tue, 8 Jun 2010 08:30:13 -0700 (PDT), wrote:
Airplanes never fall out of the skies short of catostraphic damage... No ****ing ****. Thanks for that useless piece of data. -- A fireside chat not with Ari! http://tr.im/holj Motto: Live To Spooge It! |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
a writes:
In that there is volcanic ash at non-zero concentrations throughout the entire troposphere and often well higher ... You're free to take the risk if you wish. I don't want to be on the plane. There are too many memorials to people who underestimated risks. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
But the "zero" threshold for risk in aviation does not exist.
My advice would be to simply stay away from airplanes and aviation altogether. The sum of your posts proves without contest that you are terrified of airplanes and flying. That's OK. Take boats, and leave the flying to pilots. In article , says... In article , writes: In the hundred something years that airplanes have been flying, not a year has gone by without volcanoes erupting somewhere on the planet. There have been a couple of anecdotal run-ins at very high altitude - certainly worth practicing some avoidance, but the death toll still remains at zero. The European governments must feel a great sense of injustice at being criticized for pulling the main circuit breaker on the entire society in their latest _prevention_ efforts, causing untold damage and hardship for millions for no justifiable cause. Safety is a pretty justifiable cause. Nobody dies from accidents until the accidents occur. The fact that nobody has died from a particular type of accident does not mean that no precautions to prevent it should be taken. Flights encountering volcanic ash have been few in number thus far, and they've all been lucky. Assuming that aircraft flying over the ocean will always be able to glide to land after an ash encounter is irresponsible. The current known safe threshold for ash in jet engines is zero. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
Mxsmanic wrote:
a writes: In that there is volcanic ash at non-zero concentrations throughout the entire troposphere and often well higher ... You're free to take the risk if you wish. What risk? There is in fact volcanic ash at non-zero concentrations throughout the entire troposphere and often well higher most of the time. I don't want to be on the plane. We are all well aware you don't want to be on any real airplane as you have already said this many times. There are too many memorials to people who underestimated risks. Another irrelevent red herring. -- Jim Pennino Remove .spam.sux to reply. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
On Jun 8, 2:49*pm, Mxsmanic wrote:
a writes: In that there is volcanic ash at non-zero concentrations throughout the entire troposphere and often well higher ... You're free to take the risk if you wish. I don't want to be on the plane.. There are too many memorials to people who underestimated risks. That would be any jet driven airplane flown anywhere in the world, given that is how widely dispersed volcanic is. There are many who also overestimate risks. The more rational approach is to weigh risk and benefits without one's thumb or ego on the scale. I did feed the troll, sorry guys. |
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EasyJet claims it has a miraculous new volcanic ash detector
a writes:
That would be any jet driven airplane flown anywhere in the world, given that is how widely dispersed volcanic is. There are many who also overestimate risks. The more rational approach is to weigh risk and benefits without one's thumb or ego on the scale. So how would you weigh the risks with significant amounts of ash in the air from a nearby volcano? The airlines cared only about money, not safety, so their "evaluation" of risk was straightforward, and again thanks to money, they twisted the arms of aviation authorities. Alaska Airlines does have a policy for volcanic ash, but nobody asked them about it, apparently. |
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