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"CWO4 Dave Mann" wrote in message
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"Don Pyeatt" wrote in message
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I bought a box of old negatives at an estate sale and found several
aircraft images in the lot. Here are some samples.

Is this a recon aircraft?

My best guess would be a Beech L.23 Seminole.
--
Andrew B (Cheshire, England)

"Heavier-than-air flying machines are impossible."
(Lord Kelvin, president, Royal Society, 1895.)


Yep, according to "Wiki" it's a L-23D, and specifically mentions s/n
57-3101. Later redesignated U-8D. If that trapezoidal feature on
it's
belly
is a radar then it is a RL-23D. Or it could have been redesignated
U-8D
after 1962 and then converted to RU-8D. All that, of course according
to
Wikipedia. :-)

TP


WINEBOTTLE, CEFISH PERSON, and CHECKMATE

http://www.nsa.gov/vigilance/vigil00005.cfm

Cheers,

Dave

.....It's almost like you're typing out some sort of code or something!
:-)
BTW - Very interesting, and enlightening, article.

Thanks, TP



Sorry, TP ... my previous life took over (or was it the Special
Controller Chip in my brain installed by NSA ---- Hummmm interesting
choice of a phrase ... is that "the chip installed by NSA" OR "my brin
installed by NSA"? Hang on a second, I've got to schratch my Anal Probe
.... ahhhhhhhh

Anyway, if you Google for those Nicknames you'll fine various pointers
to US Army Security Agency (ASA) flying platforms.

The US uses Code Names, Nick Names and Project Names, according to a
Joint Chiefs of Staff Manual.

Code names are like this "JUMPSEAT" -- the unclassified codename for an
atomic weapon test (and coincidentally for a type of National Imagery
Asset).

Nick Names are two words which are selected by a "Nick Name Assignment
Schedule". For example, The US Army Intelligence and Security Command
(USAINSCOM) might be assigned any first word beginning with the letters
CE and any second word beginning with the letter L. So, we have CEFISH
LADDER, CEFIRM LEADER, CEFIRM LANDER, and so on and so forth.

Project names are unclassified names given to a particular project, for
example, "ROUNDTABLE", the project name for something that I recall
being read on for about 40 years ago but can't remember what it was (see
NSA Brain, above). Lots of folks will use the word "GARDENPLOT" which
is a US military domestic insurrection defense plan. However it is
actually GARDEN PLOT.

Now if you are at the CIA, you will use DI-GRAPH code names. MKULTRA,
for instance. "MK" being the first part which designated the country or
the entity to which the code name is applied. In this case, a CIA
clandestine operation conducted within the USA's borders. ULTRA is
simply a unique word thought up by someone in security. MKULTRA is also
a very controversial and highly publicized CIA ****up.

There is a rather ponderous book written by some investigative
journalist (actually as I recall a quite unpatriotic, commie, pinko,
fellow-travelers hippie wierdo destroyer of All that is Good, Mother,
APple Pie and the American Way of Life (AWOL) and probable voter for
Hillery) which I think has the word "Codenames" in the title. Seems to
me that I read it some time ago and had to use a calculator to add up
all the words I remembered.

Anyway, hope this gives you a bit of a back ground.

BTW, I also can give you a whole riff on the UK system, but shan't since
when I worked with them on joint things they swore me to Utter Most
Secrety whilst at the NAFI Cafeteria in Berlin over some most excellent
Bangers and Bisquits and a Cuppa.

Cheers,

Dave

PS attached is a GIF -- the mascot of an operation nicknamed "UNICYCLE
FROG"


Uh.....right......uh........hey, you're not that m.i.five guy, are you?
......... Just kidding! ;-) Seriously though, I didn't know that the
code name and nick name selections were grounded in some form of actual
logical thinking (eyes rolling). I thought they were just picked out of a
hat, or somewhere, so to speak. Hmmm......"unicycle frog".......sounds
like
a good name for a grunge rock band.

Cheers, TonyP.




Well actually, Old Thing, it would be MI6, if you are one of HM's
Subjects ..

Well, I heard that the folks over here used to be Subjects but that issue
was settled a hundred years before my family immigrated here from Sicily &
Spain.

And yes, Unicycle Frog ... that's serendipity I think ...

This is the first thing that appears after a Google search for "unicycle
frog" ......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYaLQn7nKew

............but I think this thread has thoroughly strayed away from aviation
pics.