ZZZZ EAA SportPilot promotes ANN and Zoom

("Richard Isakson" wrote)
Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?


....or TIME, or NEWSWEEK, or The Mpls Star-Tribune, or CBS News, or NBC's
Dateline, or The NYTimes, or the local TV news, or Rush, etc, etc, etc.

You pays your monies, and you takes your chances.


Montblack

"Montblack" wrote ...
"Richard Isakson" wrote ...
Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?


...or TIME, or NEWSWEEK, or The Mpls Star-Tribune, or CBS News, or NBC's
Dateline, or The NYTimes, or the local TV news, or Rush, etc, etc, etc.

You pays your monies, and you takes your chances.

So you've allowed some of the modern media to convince you that a lack of
journalistic ethics is a good thing?

Rich

On Mon, 7 Aug 2006 13:47:52 -0500, "Montblack"
wrote:

("Richard Isakson" wrote)
Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?

...or TIME, or NEWSWEEK, or The Mpls Star-Tribune, or CBS News, or NBC's
Dateline, or The NYTimes, or the local TV news, or Rush, etc, etc, etc.

You pays your monies, and you takes your chances.

But in most other cases, you've got a lot better chance of eventually getting
the real story.

There have been a number of journalistic ethics scandals over the past ten
years, from Stephen Glass to Jayson Blair to CBS News and beyond. Heck, Reuters
just admitted that some of the photos they'd published of the battles in Lebanon
had been altered for more dramatic appearance.

In most of these cases, the unethical journalist was caught because complaints
or his own actions triggered an investigation by the publication's editor.

But...what happens if the editor is the one fabricating the story, or altering a
photo, or hiding a personal relationship with one of the story's subjects? What
if the editor is also the publisher?

Back in the 90s, Jim Campbell wrote an "expose" accusing the employee of a
certain kit company of criminal actions. What he *didn't* say in the story is
that the target was one of his own former employees. And she was also his
ex-fiance.

I mean, shoot, there wasn't any question of it: He'd given sworn testimony to
the fact that she was his ex-fiance (while denying it here on RAH, of course).

If he had been employed by any normal publication, he would have been out on the
street and never worked in journalism again. But of course, he WAS the
employer.

You may not like CBS, you may not like Fox, but there ARE some checks and
balances available in these and most media. But not where the author, editor,
and publisher are one in the same person. Separation of these roles brings an
unjaundiced eye to emotional topics and ensures that the editorial aspects of
the publication receive some isolation from the business (e.g., advertising)
aspects.

How much isolation exists at ANN, do you figure? When the editor-in-chief
claims that five aviation companies haven't paid advertising bills, how much
does that affect editorial coverage of these companies?

Even if the companies aren't mentioned negatively in articles, how much false
praise do their competitors receive?

I view ANN and "The Onion" about the same way...read for entertainment if you
like, but don't come to any conclusions based on it. :-)

Ron Wanttaja

"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
...

"Ken Finney" ...

Despite all the obvious issues with Mr. Campbell (and I personally know a
person involved in one of the lawsuits/countersuits), he does run the
best
aviation news website I've found. If there is a better one, I'd sure
like
to know what it is.

Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?


Unless he is altering the audio files in the interviews...

Ken Finney wrote:
"Richard Isakson" wrote in message
...

"Ken Finney" ...

Despite all the obvious issues with Mr. Campbell (and I personally know a
person involved in one of the lawsuits/countersuits), he does run the
best
aviation news website I've found. If there is a better one, I'd sure
like
to know what it is.

Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?


Unless he is altering the audio files in the interviews...

Ever hear of "Payola"? The radio stations weren't altering those songs
they were playing, either.

"Ken Finney" wrote ...

"Richard Isakson" wrote ...
Knowing Jim's previous problems with the truth, how can you believe
*anything* that's written in ANN?

Unless he is altering the audio files in the interviews...

Ken,

Most of what you find on ANN is merely company press releases that have been
cut and pasted onto the website. If you went to the individual company
websites you would find that story and others there for the reading. I
suppose that's too much trouble so you let Jim decide which press releases
you read. Of course, you won't find negative articles about major sponsors
but you will find falsified "news" about companies that refuse to play Jim's
games. Part of the entertainment?

From time to time Jim will publish a flight review of an airplane. What in
Jim's background makes you think he's qualified to judge airplane flight
characteristics? Or do you care? It's better to just let Jim form your
opinion? Or is it all entertainment?

Rich

Ken Finney wrote:
"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

This really made me angry.

http://www.sportpilot.org/news/060803_ann.html

It was a link from the EAA's eHotline email.

I'll be sending out the appropriate emails and links to John
Osterhout's web page.

Please do the same.

I am sick of Zoomy passing himself of as anything but a lying sack of
****.


I almost fell of my chair when I saw that. I just fired off a letter to
Tom P
this AM I suggest we all dothe same. I can't believe they would endorse
this
phony,someone didn't do their homework at EAA.

See ya

Chuck S


Despite all the obvious issues with Mr. Campbell (and I personally know a
person involved in one of the lawsuits/countersuits), he does run the best
aviation news website I've found. If there is a better one, I'd sure like
to know what it is.

Avweb

"Richard Riley" wrote in message
oups.com...

Ken Finney wrote:
"ChuckSlusarczyk" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
says...

This really made me angry.

http://www.sportpilot.org/news/060803_ann.html

It was a link from the EAA's eHotline email.

I'll be sending out the appropriate emails and links to John
Osterhout's web page.

Please do the same.

I am sick of Zoomy passing himself of as anything but a lying sack of
****.


I almost fell of my chair when I saw that. I just fired off a letter to
Tom P
this AM I suggest we all dothe same. I can't believe they would endorse
this
phony,someone didn't do their homework at EAA.

See ya

Chuck S


Despite all the obvious issues with Mr. Campbell (and I personally know a
person involved in one of the lawsuits/countersuits), he does run the
best
aviation news website I've found. If there is a better one, I'd sure
like
to know what it is.

Avweb


Avweb is not as good as it was before the recent changes, but IMNSHO, was
never as good as aero-news.

Ken Finney wrote:


Avweb


Avweb is not as good as it was before the recent changes, but IMNSHO, was
never as good as aero-news.

It's probably not as entertaining. But AvWeb tries to make it true.

It's like comparing "The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer" with "Desperate
Housewives."

In article , Ken Finney says...

Despite all the obvious issues with Mr. Campbell (and I personally know a
person involved in one of the lawsuits/countersuits), he does run the best
aviation news website I've found.

...so despite the obvious issues with Musolinni, he had trains that ran on time
and despite the obvious issues with Hitler,he built some really good autobans
and put the Germans to work. So I guess by your logic Hitler and Musolinni were
all right guys because some of the things they did might be considered
good.......Hmmmm

I wonder if the person you know that zoom sued is happy to know how you feel? I
might know of only one.


If there is a better one, I'd sure like
to know what it is.


Av Web.


Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret

"zoom can fool some people all the time ,all the people some of the time ,but he
don't fool me" chuck s