Things you cannot say without raising security concerns...

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

I like the bit about, "As a courtesy, the pilot informed the air traffic
tower at the base that he was entering the base¹s airspace."

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had
heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

I like the bit about, "As a courtesy, the pilot informed the air traffic
tower at the base that he was entering the base¹s airspace."

Good manners are SOOO important.

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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was said
and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had heard,
but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

Once one reports clear of the CDAS there is not longer any requirement
to remain on frequency.

john smith wrote:
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"Matt Barrow" wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote in message
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tjd wrote:
On Jun 14, 4:01 pm, Jim Stewart wrote:
Without casting doubts on your accuracy,
I'd have to say that the story just doesn't
ring right.

It sounds silly, but nevertheless is apparently true:

http://www.kansascity.com/115/story/148115.html


OK, Now I understand what happened. ATC didn't understand what was
said and couldn't contact the pilot to clear it up.

"The air traffic controller frantically tried to verify what he had
heard, but the pilot had turned off his radio, Yates said."

He's flying over an AF base and turns off his radio?

Once one reports clear of the CDAS there is not longer any requirement
to remain on frequency.

I didn't say there was. The point is that the controller heard him say
something that made him think there was a problem. To confirm he tried to
contact him and he didn't answer. This would have magnified the concern he
already had.

What do you think would have happened to the controller if he had just blown
off his concern and the aircraft had been hijacked? Keep in mind that about
90% of the post 9/11 changes have been nothing more than CYA procedures.

And if you run into a friend named Jack at the airport, don't yell out "Hi
Jack!"

mike

"john smith" wrote in message
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Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

Yesterday, a single engine GA pilot was intercepted, forced to land and
was greeted by 20 federal agents. As he was overflying a military base, he
was communicating with the controllers. When queried as to his
destination, he responded that he could not disclose that information
because he was employed in a hostile work environment and that disclosing
the location could give his employers competition a business advantage. It
seems the controller only heard the word "hostile" and immediately
notified the security apparatus.

Be careful what you say and to whom you say it, it is likely to be
interpreted out of context.

On 2007-06-15 12:28:56 -0700, "mike regish" said:

And if you run into a friend named Jack at the airport, don't yell out "Hi
Jack!"

The little orange starfish that used to be the logo of Cingular was
informally called "Jack" by employees of that company. He looked like a
jack, aye? Trouble was, the temptation when you turned your phone on at
the airport was to say "Hi, Jack."

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2007-06-14 09:58:57 -0700, john smith said:

Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

There was an airline pilot who really did get into trouble. TSA wanted
to confiscate his fingernail clippers. Exasperated, he said something
to the effect that he was the pilot -- he could fly the plane into the
ground without fingernail clippers. He was charged with making a
terrorist threat. Wonder whatever became of him?


--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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"Gig 601XL Builder" wrDOTgiaconaATsuddenlink.net wrote:

What do you think would have happened to the controller if he had just blown
off his concern and the aircraft had been hijacked? Keep in mind that about
90% of the post 9/11 changes have been nothing more than CYA procedures.

All they had to do was listen to the tapes.
They have them right there in the facility with them.

On Jun 15, 3:46 pm, C J Campbell
wrote:
On 2007-06-14 09:58:57 -0700, john smith said:

Last month a Hollywood producer was detained for several hours for
honestly answering a TSA screeners question as to his purpose for
visiting. The answer to the question: "I'm here to shoot a pilot."

There was an airline pilot who really did get into trouble. TSA wanted
to confiscate his fingernail clippers. Exasperated, he said something
to the effect that he was the pilot -- he could fly the plane into the
ground without fingernail clippers. He was charged with making a
terrorist threat. Wonder whatever became of him?

--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

He's dead... firing squad shot him!