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OLC Submissions and Cambridge 302
Can someone who is sucessfully using the DOS applications for
downloading, converting logs from the 302 and sucessfully posting to OLC post the process? I am interested in the DOS process only. There are 4 files mentioned on OLC and FAI web sites: 1. datacam2.exe - for downloading flight traces (does this yield a .cai file?) 2. valicam2.exe - for verifying security of cai or .igc? 3. conv-cam - to make an .igc out of a .fai? 4. cai2igc - seems same as #3 - perhaps not for the 302 Thanks Scott Elhardt |
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scooter wrote:
Can someone who is sucessfully using the DOS applications for downloading, converting logs from the 302 and sucessfully posting to OLC post the process? I am interested in the DOS process only. There are 4 files mentioned on OLC and FAI web sites: 1. datacam2.exe - for downloading flight traces (does this yield a .cai file?) 2. valicam2.exe - for verifying security of cai or .igc? 3. conv-cam - to make an .igc out of a .fai? 4. cai2igc - seems same as #3 - perhaps not for the 302 datacam2.exe (download) and valicam2.exe (validation) are the only DOS programs that are needed for the 302, it's native file format is IGC, so no conversion is necessary. The other programs are for the GPS-NAV. Marc |
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Be advised that we have identfied a problem with the C302 where
valicam2.exe reports "Log Data Integrity OK, Signature Data Integrity OK, Security Fail" which indicates a bad security seal, even though the C302 reports that the security seal is good. All we know so far is that it has happened on a C302 that has produced good logs before without any known cause (i.e. it wasn't tampered with). Suspected causes are nearly full memory, and not using the datacam2.exe DOS download program, but we have not been able to isolate this yet. So if you have had this problem, please post your story to help us understand the problem. Whenever you download an IGC file from the C302 (or any IGC logger) and want to use it for OLC or FAI badges and records, you must run the IGC DOS validation program to make sure you have a valid log file. Do this before you erase the flight from the logger memory. If the file does not pass validation, download it again, using a different computer if necessary. If you are using a windows program to download, and still get an invalid log, try the DOS version of the download program. |
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Thanks Marc;
Have you tried running these applications under PocketDOS on a PDA? Seems it would be nice to not have to connect a laptop each time. Scott |
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scooter wrote:
Thanks Marc; Have you tried running these applications under PocketDOS on a PDA? Seems it would be nice to not have to connect a laptop each time. I've used the Cambridge-supplied PDA utility to download for several years, with no problems. You can get it from their web site. Marc |
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Use the 302 utility program available from CAI to download to the PDA:
http://www.cambridge-aero.com/300ser...ity%20Programs The utility program reports validation, so am not sure about whether following up with valicam is still needed. -Tom |
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Hi,
I recommend using the Cambridge 300 Utility on a Pocket PC or PC first. It is very easy to use and will work 99.9999% of the time. If it fails, try again. If it fails multiple times then try the DOS program. It would probably work equally well using Pocket DOS on a Pocket PC. Good Soaring, Paul Remde Cumulus Soaring, Inc. http://www.cumulus-soaring.com "Doug Haluza" wrote in message oups.com... Be advised that we have identfied a problem with the C302 where valicam2.exe reports "Log Data Integrity OK, Signature Data Integrity OK, Security Fail" which indicates a bad security seal, even though the C302 reports that the security seal is good. All we know so far is that it has happened on a C302 that has produced good logs before without any known cause (i.e. it wasn't tampered with). Suspected causes are nearly full memory, and not using the datacam2.exe DOS download program, but we have not been able to isolate this yet. So if you have had this problem, please post your story to help us understand the problem. Whenever you download an IGC file from the C302 (or any IGC logger) and want to use it for OLC or FAI badges and records, you must run the IGC DOS validation program to make sure you have a valid log file. Do this before you erase the flight from the logger memory. If the file does not pass validation, download it again, using a different computer if necessary. If you are using a windows program to download, and still get an invalid log, try the DOS version of the download program. |
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5Z wrote:
Use the 302 utility program available from CAI to download to the PDA: http://www.cambridge-aero.com/300ser...ity%20Programs The utility program reports validation, so am not sure about whether following up with valicam is still needed. I've never had an IGC file that validates when downloaded using the Cambridge PDA utility, that later fails to validate with valicam2. The paranoid (like myself), will always later verify a file using valicam2, if they want to be certain of proper flight documentation for badge/record (or for that matter, OLC) purposes. The one thing you absolutely do not want to do, is download from a 302 (or other approved flight recorders) using, for (a not quite random) example, SeeYou, and send the resulting IGC file off without verifying it... Marc |
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Doug Haluza wrote:
Be advised that we have identfied a problem with the C302 where valicam2.exe reports "Log Data Integrity OK, Signature Data Integrity OK, Security Fail" which indicates a bad security seal, even though the C302 reports that the security seal is good. All we know so far is that it has happened on a C302 that has produced good logs before without any known cause (i.e. it wasn't tampered with). Suspected causes are nearly full memory, and not using the datacam2.exe DOS download program, but we have not been able to isolate this yet. So if you have had this problem, please post your story to help us understand the problem. Whenever you download an IGC file from the C302 (or any IGC logger) and want to use it for OLC or FAI badges and records, you must run the IGC DOS validation program to make sure you have a valid log file. Do this before you erase the flight from the logger memory. If the file does not pass validation, download it again, using a different computer if necessary. If you are using a windows program to download, and still get an invalid log, try the DOS version of the download program. Sounds exactly like the problem I had. I was downloading to an Ipaq using the CAI supplied PDA download program. CAI said they saw a problem like this maybe once every year or two. It then happened again after another 9 or 10 flights. Cambridge didn't suggest trying a DOS download, but instead replaced the flash memory. Problem hasn't recurred, but I have had only a handful of flights since the repair, and the repair did give an empty memory, so if that was the problem you wouldn't see it again for quite a while. |
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Marc Ramsey wrote: 5Z wrote: Use the 302 utility program available from CAI to download to the PDA: http://www.cambridge-aero.com/300ser...ity%20Programs The utility program reports validation, so am not sure about whether following up with valicam is still needed. I've never had an IGC file that validates when downloaded using the Cambridge PDA utility, that later fails to validate with valicam2. The paranoid (like myself), will always later verify a file using valicam2, if they want to be certain of proper flight documentation for badge/record (or for that matter, OLC) purposes. The one thing you absolutely do not want to do, is download from a 302 (or other approved flight recorders) using, for (a not quite random) example, SeeYou, and send the resulting IGC file off without verifying it... Now hold on here, I have a CAI 302, I use the CAI Utility program 2.56 and download my flight to my PDA, to my flash card. When I get home, I take it from my flash card to See You, then I submit it to the OLC, using See You. I don't have any problems, not last year, year before, or this year. I also use my 302 for contests, no problems. Also, last year, set numerous State records. No problem. When I power up my panel, and the 302 is turned on, I watch the 303 window for the checks that the 302 goes thur before I go fly. When I download the flight from the 302, using the CAI Utility progam, I get a windows message, telling me everything is OK. I am not a software hacker, just use it like it was designed for, and will be very happy when my new glider gets here, so I can go fly and start posting flights on the OLC. What I do hope for, is some year the OLC folks come up with a OLC contest for those of us who would like to declare turnpoints before we go flying, maybe giving us bonus points for declared completed tasks, thus, we show we can plan a flight before we just go flying and skylark around the sky. I do enjoy skylarking around the sky, and find using the OLC helps me practice, by trying to get the most from the day. BUT for me, declaring a task, and competing it, is very rewarding, just as contest flying is, when completing the called task results in good results. I now am rambling, which I wouldn't be, if my new glider would of gotten here on time. As you all can see, I am not happy about my new glider not being here. Never trust a salesman, period. The reason for no early contest reports is.....yep.....no new glider. Salesman know so much before they get your money, then afterwards, they know nothing. Sorta like those 3 monkeys.......see no, hear no, speak no, they just sit around and scratch, belch, and fart........Thermal tight, Soar high, Fly safe, # 711. |
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