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World's longest nonstop flight announced



 
 
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Old August 18th 15, 03:34 AM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
Byker
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Default World's longest nonstop flight announced

Emirates will operate the flight with a Boeing 777-200LR aircraft and carry
256 passengers plus 15 tons of cargo

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/13/tr...ght/index.html

8,580 mi., 260 miles farther than Dubai-Los Angeles
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Old August 18th 15, 07:37 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Default World's longest nonstop flight announced

On Mon, 17 Aug 2015 21:34:47 -0500, "Byker" wrote:

Emirates will operate the flight with a Boeing 777-200LR aircraft and carry
256 passengers plus 15 tons of cargo

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/13/tr...ght/index.html

8,580 mi., 260 miles farther than Dubai-Los Angeles


17 hours in a noisy metal tube, full up people... can I have some
sedatives, please?...
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Old August 18th 15, 08:59 PM posted to alt.binaries.pictures.aviation
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Default World's longest nonstop flight announced

"JR" wrote in message ...

17 hours in a noisy metal tube, full up people... can I have some
sedatives, please?...


I once asked a flight attendant how passengers are expected to endure all
those hours in coach seating. He said, "Take a Valium or a Tylenol PM and
try to sleep most of the way." Flying first-class would cost three times as
much, but at least you'd get a wider, more cushiony seat, more legroom, and
a seat back that leans farther.

That reminds me of this little gem from a couple of months ago. Even before
9/11 I looked forward to flying about as much as I did a root canal, thanks
to overbooked flights, crowded terminals, scarce parking, lost baggage,
lousy food, and sardine-can seating. Nowadays I don't fly unless it's
utterly, totally unavoidable. Things haven't gotten any better in the last
ten years...
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Terminal Futility

Routine airport security won't thwart jihadists, but it does inconvenience
and endanger the rest of us.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, June 6, 2005, at 1:02 PM PT

Is there anyone reading this column who would agree with Mark O. Hatfield
Jr., spokesman for the Transportation Security Administration, that in the
past year "the average peak wait time at [airport] checkpoints has dropped a
minute ... to about 12 minutes"? This is what he was cited as having said,
in a New York Times report of a confidential document from the Department of
Homeland Security. The last time I was at Dulles Airport, the line for
security began at the entrance to the terminal and wound itself in several
rope-line convolutions, like a clogged intestine, for about 40 minutes. I
had allowed the usual two hours and was checking no luggage, but this and
other banana-republic conditions almost made me miss my plane. Nor was it a
"peak time." In any case, a passenger cannot know what a "peak time" will
be. Only the TSA knows how many people are booked on how many flights at a
given hour and can make provision of enough machines and personnel. Or not,
as the case may be.

So, Hatfield was telling me something that I didn't know. The rest of the
report, however, contains things that everyone does know to be true. We
learn that there is no real capacity to detect explosives, for example. And
we learn that, "If, say, a handgun were discovered, the terrorist would have
ample ability to retain control of it. TSA screeners are neither expecting
to encounter a real weapon nor are they trained to gain control of it." Who
hasn't worked that out?

I think I had also noticed that there are not enough plastic bins or tables
to line them up on, and that "X-ray machines that examine carry-on baggage
sit idle as much as 30 per cent of the time." The time elapsed between Sept.
11, 2001, and today's writing (1,364 days) is only slightly less than the
time between Pearl Harbor and the unconditional surrender of Japan (1,365
days). And airport security is still a silly farce that subjects the
law-abiding to collective punishment while presenting almost no deterrent to
a determined suicide-killer.

There is one mercy at least: One no longer sees people smiling and saying,
"Thank you" as their wheelchairs and their children are put through
pointless inspections. But the new form of servile abjection-standing in
sullen lines and just putting up with it-is hardly an improvement. One
sometimes wants to ask, "What's my name?" or, "To what database is this
connected" when someone has just asked for the third time for you to put
down a bag and produce a driver's license. But I think the fear of making
some inscrutable "no-fly" list may inhibit many people. There has never yet
been a hijacker who boarded a plane without taking the trouble to purchase a
ticket and carry an ID. Members of the last successful group were on a
"watch list," for all the difference that made. The next successful group
will not be on a watch list.

Flying from London to Washington the other day, I was told that I was no
longer required to take my computer out of its case. Apparently, there are
scanners that can see though soft cases as well as through the hardened lid
of a laptop (and apparently the United States hasn't managed to invest in
any of these scanners for its domestic airports). On the other hand, I was
asked if I had packed my own bags and if they had been under my control at
all times. This exceptionally stupid pair of questions-to which a terrorist
would have to answer "yes" by definition-is now deemed too stupid for U.S.
domestic purposes and stupid enough only for international travel. This
makes as much sense as diverting a full plane that carries a notorious
Islamist crooner, the artist formerly known as Cat Stevens, from one airport
to another.

Routines and "zero tolerance" exercises will never thwart determined
jihadists who are inventive and who are willing to sacrifice their lives.
That requires inventiveness and initiative. But airport officials are not
allowed to use their initiative. People who have had their names confused
with wanted or suspect people, and who have spent hours proving that they
are who they say they are, are nonetheless compelled to go through the whole
process every time, often with officials who have seen them before and
cleared them before, because the system that never seems to catch anyone can
never seem to let go of anyone, either.

While people are treated as packages, we learn from the same New York Times
account of the still-secret Homeland Security document that "air cargo on
passenger planes is rarely physically inspected today." Imagine, if you
will, the wolfish grin of an al-Qaida fan who reads that sentence. I
sometimes don't want to mention all the other loopholes, in case it gives
ideas to the wrong people, but just imagine for a second that we imposed our
current airport rules on trains, or the subway, or the tunnels and bridges .

What we are looking at, then, is a hugely costly and oppressive system that
is designed to maintain the illusion of safety and the delusion that the
state is protecting its citizens. The main beneficiaries seem to be the
pilferers employed by this vast bureaucracy-we have had several recent
reports about the steep increase in items stolen from luggage. And that is
petty theft that takes place off-stage. What amazes me is the willingness of
Americans to submit to confiscation at the point of search. Every day,
people are relieved of private property in broad daylight, with the sole net
result that they wouldn't have even a nail file with which to protect
themselves if (or rather when) the next hijacking occurs.

Last month, cigarette lighters were added to the confiscation list. There's
probably some half-baked "shoe-bomber" justification for this, but I hear
that at Boise airport in Idaho there's now a lighter bin on the way out of
the airport, like the penny tray in some shops, that allows you to pick one
up. Give one; take one-it all helps to pass the time until the next
disaster, which collective punishment of the law-abiding is doing nothing to
prevent.

http://slate.com/id/2120330/

 




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