Any Cessna 210 owners?

Does anyone here own an older model C210 (strut-wing models)? I'm
looking at a 1966 and would like to learn more about the real world
costs of operation as compared to the 182 I owned previously. I know
the insurance is a lot higher ($3800 vs. $1200), and fuel burn is
higher, but what about maintenance costs? Other than the gear saddle,
what are the other trouble spots? How much trouble is the gear saddle
in actuality?


Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:09 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?


Does anyone here own an older model C210 (strut-wing models)? I'm
looking at a 1966 and would like to learn more about the real world
costs of operation as compared to the 182 I owned previously. I know
the insurance is a lot higher ($3800 vs. $1200), and fuel burn is
higher, but what about maintenance costs? Other than the gear saddle,
what are the other trouble spots? How much trouble is the gear saddle
in actuality?


Matt

I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to their
210 documentation quite useful. I was looking at an F model a couple of
years ago after deciding that the D model and years prior had some
issues with fuel tanks. I think the F model was where they switched from
bladders to wet wing, but I'd have to go back to check for sure. Isn't
the F model the '65 or '66?

They also have a well-respected 210 owners course that is almost always
sold out.

Cessna Owners Assoc isn't as focused on the maintenance aspects as far
as I can tell, but is rather focused on pilot safety issues.

"Jim Carter" wrote:

I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to their
210 documentation quite useful.

I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models, where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

Mike

Mike Adams wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote:


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to their
210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models, where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an owner.

Thanks,
Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?

Mike Adams wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote:


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to
their
210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models,
where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an
owner.

Thanks,
Matt

The membership is less than 10 gallons of 100LL.

Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?

Mike Adams wrote:


"Jim Carter" wrote:



I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to

their

210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models,

where

I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an

owner.

Thanks,
Matt


The membership is less than 10 gallons of 100LL.


Depends on where you buy your gas. My local airport sells 10 gallons
for $31.50 which is quite a bit less than the $45 membership for CPA,
but your point is well taken. It just seems a waste to join a brand
organization when you don't even own an airplane. And I'd hate to have
to join every other association just to compare a few different airplane
models.

Matt

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?

Mike Adams wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote:


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to
their
210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models,
where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an
owner.

Thanks,
Matt

The membership is less than 10 gallons of 100LL.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?

Mike Adams wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote:


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to
their
210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models,
where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an
owner.

Thanks,
Matt

The membership is less than 10 gallons of 100LL.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 6:11 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?

Mike Adams wrote:

"Jim Carter" wrote:


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to
their
210 documentation quite useful.


I'll second that recommendation. The CPA has a wealth of information
available including very active discussion forums on all the models,
where
I'm sure you can get some good input. http://www.cessna.org

I'll check to see how much information is available to non-members.
Unless the membership is pretty cheap, I don't want to join just to
research a purchase. I can definitely see the value though as an
owner.

Thanks,
Matt

The membership is less than 10 gallons of 100LL.

Jim Carter wrote:


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Whiting ]
Posted At: Saturday, December 30, 2006 5:09 PM
Posted To: rec.aviation.owning
Conversation: Any Cessna 210 owners?
Subject: Any Cessna 210 owners?


Does anyone here own an older model C210 (strut-wing models)? I'm
looking at a 1966 and would like to learn more about the real world
costs of operation as compared to the 182 I owned previously. I know
the insurance is a lot higher ($3800 vs. $1200), and fuel burn is
higher, but what about maintenance costs? Other than the gear saddle,
what are the other trouble spots? How much trouble is the gear saddle
in actuality?


Matt


I used to be a member of Cessna Pilots Assoc and found access to their
210 documentation quite useful. I was looking at an F model a couple of
years ago after deciding that the D model and years prior had some
issues with fuel tanks. I think the F model was where they switched from
bladders to wet wing, but I'd have to go back to check for sure. Isn't
the F model the '65 or '66?

They also have a well-respected 210 owners course that is almost always
sold out.

Cessna Owners Assoc isn't as focused on the maintenance aspects as far
as I can tell, but is rather focused on pilot safety issues.



The F is the '66 model. I'm not sure if it has wet wings or not, but I
think not as it was the next year, '67 when they went to the 90 gallon
tanks and I'm guessing that was when they switched away from the
bladders. However, that is only a guess.

Interesting that the PILOTS association focuses on maintenance and the
OWNERS association focuses on piloting. I would certainly considering
joining the CPA if I bought the airplane, but I really didn't want to
join just to research it.


Matt