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if the logbook says a 100hr inspection was completed IAW the maint manual..
then only what is in the maint manual for a 100hr inspection counts.. the seals were not logged as replaced, so it did not happen... if the 100hr inspection entry makes reference to a "work order number", then a copy of that work order should be with the maint logs... if you as the owner do not have a copy of the work order, from your receipt of payment for services.. that is your problem.. as far a buyer or insurance rep would say... if it is not in the log books , it did not happen and it would devalue your aircraft. BT "Peter" wrote in message ... "Denny" wrote N registered aircraft are required to have all work recorded in the airframe and powerplant logs, what you apparently call maintenance records... I have no idea why you would think otherwise... My 1957 Apache came with an armload of logbooks going back to day one... In this country a plane that does not have a complete set of logbooks suffers a significant drop in the value of the aircraft... Logbooks yes. I have the logbooks. But logbooks don't contain the *details* of work done. They should contain references to other documents. For example a logbook might say that a 100hr check was done. What it won't say (unless the engineer felt like writing it in there) is that the landing gear gas seals had to be replaced and two instrument panel light had to be replaced, etc; that will be in a separate file which is referenced in the logbook. My question was whether *** under FAA rules *** the aircraft owner is entitled to have a copy of these separate files. I have just been advised by email from someone who I know should know that the maintenance firm *is* required by the FAA to keep copies, so if they do hand the originals over they are allowed to make a reasonable charge for copying. One of the problems with purchasing a second user aircraft is that even if all the logbooks are present, there is no record of what might have been a very long string of minor rectification work, especially if some of the various maintenance firms involved have gone bust. Peter. -- Return address is invalid to help stop junk mail. E-mail replies to but remove the X and the Y. Please do NOT copy usenet posts to email - it is NOT necessary. |
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Peter wrote: Hi All, Does the owner of an N registered aircraft have the right to keep all the maintenance records? I just found out that the local A&P on our field is in the hospitol and not doing well. A lot of people have their logs with him and he's done a lot of annuals that he hasn't yet signed. If he doesn't do well, that will hurt a lot of people. I NEVER leave my logs with any A&P other than just a couple days during annual. I just ask for stickers. There really isn't much reason for A&Ps to have your logs other than to check for ADs during annual. -Robert |
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Peter -- serial numbers must be verified against the device installed
in the aircraft. This is a conformity check. There is no guarantee that the device has not been swapped out at some time for another one. Which may or may not be an airworthy part.... |
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Peter,
I would recommend that you demand a record of the work performed before paying the bill. If they won't go along, then use another shop. I recently questioned a shop about the amount of time they charged for an annual. They told me that 2 hours was spent on the paper work. I figured out that they could not have spent nearly that time much and their write up wasn't even complete. They just lost a LOT of potential business. Vote with your feet. |
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Peter wrote: Logbooks yes. I have the logbooks. But logbooks don't contain the *details* of work done. They should contain references to other documents. For example a logbook might say that a 100hr check was done. What it won't say (unless the engineer felt like writing it in there) is that the landing gear gas seals had to be replaced and two instrument panel light had to be replaced, etc; that will be in a separate file which is referenced in the logbook. My question was whether *** under FAA rules *** the aircraft owner is entitled to have a copy of these separate files. Under FAA rules, the logbooks themselves must contain the details of the work. George Patterson The desire for safety stands against every great and noble enterprise. |
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"Peter" wrote in message ... "Denny" wrote N registered aircraft are required to have all work recorded in the airframe and powerplant logs, what you apparently call maintenance records... I have no idea why you would think otherwise... My 1957 Apache came with an armload of logbooks going back to day one... In this country a plane that does not have a complete set of logbooks suffers a significant drop in the value of the aircraft... Logbooks yes. I have the logbooks. But logbooks don't contain the *details* of work done. They should contain references to other documents. For example a logbook might say that a 100hr check was done. What it won't say (unless the engineer felt like writing it in there) is that the landing gear gas seals had to be replaced and two instrument panel light had to be replaced, etc; that will be in a separate file which is referenced in the logbook. It sure should say that. In fact, very often light bulbs and other things are replaced with no log entries, either at the FBO or anywhere else. Sometimes the owner replaces light bulbs. There is usually no written entry anywhere when someone adds a quart of oil, either, or if they put air in the tires, or clean bugs off the prop. At the very least, though, the logbooks should contain the same details as any records kept by the FBO, such as they are. Mine do. |
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