Please Ignore Mxsmanic

To all the "real" pilots reading this newsgroup.......

It's very obvious that Mxsmanic is not serious about learning to fly
real airplanes.
The questions asked by him are very basic questions that could be
found by
reading and educating himself in the "right way". Instead it appears
he is lazy and
wants to take the easy way out. He prefers to use us in this newsgroup
give him the answers to his mostly stupid questions.

I respect alot of you as fellow pilots in this newsgroup and value
your viewpoint
even tho I have over 2,000 hours and built my 1st airplane 20 years
ago. It's aways
interesting to hear others opinions and I will be the first to admit
there is always
something to learn. I enjoy helping others that might have questions
about flying
or a particular airplane if I can. It's very clear that Mxsmanic has
not tried in anyway
to educate himself in anyway other than to ask in this newsgroup.

So here's the delimma, a lot of you knowledgeable people are feeding
the troll!
I know without a doubt, there is a sincere desire to be helpful but
all that is
happening is for every stupid question answered, two more are in the
newgroup
the next day.... it's never ending. I don't want to "kill file"
anybody but Mxsmanic.
I do want to read the rest of your postings and I enjoy them and learn
from them.

Final comment, please stop responding the Mxsmanic postings, comments
about
him, Flight Sim's etc. Just let him fade away and get this newsgroup
back to
questions about flying REAL airplanes, REAL questions, from REAL
people.

Thank You from 63 year old fellow pilot...

Terry
N6401F

well, i guess i just don't understand or maybe i'm not a real enough
pilot or something. are you saying that if i respond to this guy (or
whatever) you'll "kill file" me??? i have no idea what being kill-filed
is like. does it hurt??

it's not like there is any real shortage of electrons and if we allow
this guy to use some there won't be enough left for me is there?? i'll
admit i'm fast losing interest in msxwhatever but i don't really see
how other people talking to him or not effects me in any way. besides,
ordering people to do stuff only works if you can shoot 'em if they
don't and then they can't anymore on account of they're shot...see?

i notice you live in new york. have they not regulated "kill-filing"
yet? i'm pretty sure california has. at least you have to get a permit,
file an environmental impact statement and adopt a rodent.

chill. please go play in your nice c-150. i really like those even tho
some people think they're more like toys than real airplanes. i've
seen some old snobs that won't even talk to you unless you've got more
plane than that. heck, all i've got is an old 172 but it makes me
grin.

so, c'mon terry, unclench that fist, come in off that porch, leave the
kids alone and tell me about that cessna of yours. 66 model huh? lot
newer than mine, it's only a 62 model but it does have the
johnson-handle flaps which i think are pretty cool. don't think i've
seen you over to the cessna pilots assn have i??

dan




Terry wrote:
To all the "real" pilots reading this newsgroup.......

.. I don't want to "kill file"
anybody but Mxsmanic.
I do want to read the rest of your postings and I enjoy them and learn
from them.


Terry
N6401F

"Terry" wrote in message
ink.net...
To all the "real" pilots reading this newsgroup.......

It's very obvious that Mxsmanic is not serious about learning to fly real
airplanes.
The questions asked by him are very basic questions that could be found by
reading and educating himself in the "right way". Instead it appears he is
lazy and
wants to take the easy way out. He prefers to use us in this newsgroup
give him the answers to his mostly stupid questions.

I respect alot of you as fellow pilots in this newsgroup and value your
viewpoint
even tho I have over 2,000 hours and built my 1st airplane 20 years ago.
It's aways
interesting to hear others opinions and I will be the first to admit there
is always
something to learn. I enjoy helping others that might have questions about
flying
or a particular airplane if I can. It's very clear that Mxsmanic has not
tried in anyway
to educate himself in anyway other than to ask in this newsgroup.

So here's the delimma, a lot of you knowledgeable people are feeding the
troll!
I know without a doubt, there is a sincere desire to be helpful but all
that is
happening is for every stupid question answered, two more are in the
newgroup
the next day.... it's never ending. I don't want to "kill file" anybody
but Mxsmanic.
I do want to read the rest of your postings and I enjoy them and learn
from them.

Final comment, please stop responding the Mxsmanic postings, comments
about
him, Flight Sim's etc. Just let him fade away and get this newsgroup back
to
questions about flying REAL airplanes, REAL questions, from REAL people.

Thank You from 63 year old fellow pilot...

Terry
N6401F

As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I am
learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my journey,
but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it doesn't
mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

"Terry" wrote in message
ink.net...
To all the "real" pilots reading this newsgroup.......

It's very obvious that Mxsmanic is not serious about learning to fly
real airplanes.
The questions asked by him are very basic questions that could be
found by
reading and educating himself in the "right way". Instead it appears
he is lazy and
wants to take the easy way out. He prefers to use us in this newsgroup
give him the answers to his mostly stupid questions.

It's even worse than that. He asks an innocent sounding question, and twists
the replies into an argument.

As a troll, he's almost as talented as Skylune.

I'm done playing with him.

"houstondan" wrote in message
ups.com...
well, i guess i just don't understand or maybe i'm not a real enough
pilot or something. are you saying that if i respond to this guy (or
whatever) you'll "kill file" me??? i have no idea what being kill-filed
is like. does it hurt??

A kill-file simply puts you on a list where my computer will no longer shouw
your posts.

When I killfile someone, I don't see his/her posts. When you reply to
his/her posts and include his/her entire post in your response, now it shows
up on my computer. If you continue re-posting his/her posts, my only
recourse is to killfile you.

On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 11:10:20 GMT, "Steve Foley"
wrote in wU7Sg.4917$Zj4.971@trndny04:

If you continue re-posting his/her posts, my only
recourse is to killfile you.

Consider killing the message thread instead.

Crash Lander wrote:

I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.

This particular issue has to do with the manner in which the subject-named
individual responds once people take the time to give an educated, detailed
answer.

Someone like yourself has demonstrated a willingness to learn and an
appreciation for the time someone else took to answer your questions. The
subject-named individual does not do that, instead choosing to argue
without facts and post inflammatory comments of his own.

I KF'ed this one weeks ago and created a filter to kill the post following
his, so he absolutely no longer exists in my Usenet world, other than these
tribute threads here. A simple subject-based filter will take care of
that, too.

--
Peter

("houstondan" wrote)
i have no idea what being kill-filed is like. does it hurt??


YES! :^)

I've been *Plonked* three times in eight years

....that I know of.


Montblacklisted

Crash Lander wrote:
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I am
learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my journey,
but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that some of my
curious questions that arise from the simming world might not be worth
listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it doesn't
mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander


1) You *are* a real pilot with just one hour... a student pilot. Every
licensed pilot starts that way.

2) Being a flight simmer isn't the issue here... it's only the wrapper around
the rotten meat.

3) The sheer volume of postings from Numbnuts makes it difficult to just
killfile his threads. Sure, I can easily killfile *him*, but I'm left with the
mass of replies. More to the point, the mass of replies sucks the oxygen out of
the room for any real questions.

4) While you have every intention of completing your course of study, Numbnuts
only wants to lecture us so as to demonstrate his superior knowledge. The fact
that he has none doesn't faze him. *He* is not a real pilot; nor does he have
any intention of ever learning how to fly. That's why he needs to go away from
here and rec.aviation.student, where he also crossposts.

Bottom line: it's not that Numbnuts is a simmer; it's that the simmer is
Numbnuts and he doesn't want to learn; only to lecture.




--
Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerdatcarolina.rr.com

"Crash Lander" wrote in message
...
As much as I agree that flight sim problems are rarely solved with real
world flying solutions, and that he may be asking some of the questions in
the wrong group, I have to say that I am also a flight simmer! And yes, I
am learning to fly. I only have 1 hour so far, so have just begun my
journey, but just because I am not a real pilot yet, doesn't mean that
some of my curious questions that arise from the simming world might not
be worth listening to from a real world pilot point of view.
You need to remember that just because a thread has been posted, it
doesn't mean you have to read it.
Crash Lander

(I'll vouch for "Crash" ... he's good people (in a usenet kinda way...gdr))

The difference here CL, is that Mx:

1) Has preconcieved notions
2) Is unwilling to accept the answers he's given
3) Insists the answers he's given are wrong and already knows exactly why
(adjunct to point #1)

No one here will hesitate to inform, enlighten and help educate new pilots
if the impression is given (and it can be real or imagined...) that the
person posing the questions can actually read the info, digest it and be
grateful for the help. Hell, no one would even care if you wanted to debate
an issue provided you do so with logic and facts based on real world
experiences or observations.

Just don't come in here telling hundreds of pilots with experience levels
ranging from newbie to multi-thousands of hours that you know better than
they do because your computer sim doesn't work that way.

Best of luck with your training. Post early and often as you go...

Jay Beckman
PP-ASEL
Chandler, AZ