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How exactly will Taiwan torpedo the dam?
What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now
or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html -HJC |
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reads to me like a leftist commie-lover writing.
Even if the Republic of China has a bomb large enough to seriously damage the 3 gorges dam they lack the means to deliver that bomb to the target. This in contrast with communist China who have ICBMs, SLBMs and intercontinental bombers carrying multi-megaton nuclear weapons. "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html -HJC |
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In article , Henry J Cobb
wrote: What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html Some divers placing a couple of tons of explosive against the base underwater should do the trick. The issue isn't Taiwan, though, it's someone inside of mainland China deciding to cause a revolution (this would be one way to go about it). -- cirby at cfl.rr.com Remember: Objects in rearview mirror may be hallucinations. Slam on brakes accordingly. |
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On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 18:18:58 +0200, "Jeroen Wenting"
wrote: reads to me like a leftist commie-lover writing. Even if the Republic of China has a bomb large enough to seriously damage the 3 gorges dam they lack the means to deliver that bomb to the target. This in contrast with communist China who have ICBMs, SLBMs and intercontinental bombers carrying multi-megaton nuclear weapons. "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html -HJC Actually they don't have "intercontinental" bombers. Not unless you mean flying from Eastern Europe to Western Asia. A B-52 is an intercontinental bomber, a Tu-16 is not. The Tu-16 is more in the class of the B-47. Not that it matters when they're only flying to Taiwan. Trying to get them there would be a bad idea though and China doesn't have so many ICBMs that they'd waste one on Taiwan. Not to mention if they ever went nuclear they'd have DEFINITELY made life interesting for themselves. |
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"Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html Crap. Went to the link and found...more rambling rants from Henry himself! Finally waded through the putrifying mass of illogical "analaysis" provided by himself and found the DoD report *itself*--only to find no mention of being able to breach Three Gorges, just a reference to a some Taiwanese having expressed the *opinion* that they think Taiwan needs to develop a capability to threaten high-value targets on the mainland, with Three Gorges as an example. Let's see--taking down associated generators, substations, HV transmission lines, and/or damaging gates, etc., all constitute "threats" to Three Gorges, so this is apparently just another HJC "leaping to (wrong) conclusions and supporting them with cites taken-out-of-context" exercise... Brooks -HJC |
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The British needed special design spinning finless 7000 lb bombs to break
through the Ruhr Dam during WW II. Half the bombers on the mission were lost, most before they got to the dam. WDA end "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html -HJC |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html Crap. Went to the link and found...more rambling rants from Henry himself! Finally waded through the putrifying mass of illogical "analaysis" provided by himself and found the DoD report *itself*--only to find no mention of being able to breach Three Gorges, just a reference to a some Taiwanese having expressed the *opinion* that they think Taiwan needs to develop a capability to threaten high-value targets on the mainland, with Three Gorges as an example. Let's see--taking down associated generators, substations, HV transmission lines, and/or damaging gates, etc., all constitute "threats" to Three Gorges, so this is apparently just another HJC "leaping to (wrong) conclusions and supporting them with cites taken-out-of-context" exercise... Brooks -HJC Don't you guys read the newspapers? This story, about Taiwan holding high value targets on the mainland at risk to include breaching of said dam as primary, not just the associated infrasturcture, has been an AP piece in the LA Times all week. I think there were at least a couple of stories about it including the Sino response about "...blocking out the sky..." with their retaliation. The first question is meant to be rhetorical. Don't ride the "no I don't read the crap liberal media" horse. JB |
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"Jim Baker" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html Crap. Went to the link and found...more rambling rants from Henry himself! Finally waded through the putrifying mass of illogical "analaysis" provided by himself and found the DoD report *itself*--only to find no mention of being able to breach Three Gorges, just a reference to a some Taiwanese having expressed the *opinion* that they think Taiwan needs to develop a capability to threaten high-value targets on the mainland, with Three Gorges as an example. Let's see--taking down associated generators, substations, HV transmission lines, and/or damaging gates, etc., all constitute "threats" to Three Gorges, so this is apparently just another HJC "leaping to (wrong) conclusions and supporting them with cites taken-out-of-context" exercise... Brooks -HJC Don't you guys read the newspapers? This story, about Taiwan holding high value targets on the mainland at risk to include breaching of said dam as primary, not just the associated infrasturcture, has been an AP piece in the LA Times all week. I think there were at least a couple of stories about it including the Sino response about "...blocking out the sky..." with their retaliation. The first question is meant to be rhetorical. Don't ride the "no I don't read the crap liberal media" horse. No, my impression of the general media when it comes to things military is not too complimentary. If your numerous references in the LA Times to this come from the DoD report mentioned by Mr. Cobb, then it has been taken out of context (just as Mr. Cobb has--and has repeatedly done in the past)--read the actual verbage in the report. It does not credit Taiwan with this capability, nor does it specify that in order to target said dam, one would have to actually breach it--it only mentions that some Taiwanese have ruminated over the possibility of their being able to hit HVT's, with Three Gorges mentioned as an example, as being a good course of action for the future. In other words, it is a non-story. Brooks JB |
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"Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "Jim Baker" wrote in message ... "Kevin Brooks" wrote in message ... "Henry J Cobb" wrote in message ... What was the weapon that the Pentagon authors think that Taiwan either has now or could develop that would breach the Three Gorges Dam? http://militarynewswatch.blogspot.co...rpedo-dam.html Crap. Went to the link and found...more rambling rants from Henry himself! Finally waded through the putrifying mass of illogical "analaysis" provided by himself and found the DoD report *itself*--only to find no mention of being able to breach Three Gorges, just a reference to a some Taiwanese having expressed the *opinion* that they think Taiwan needs to develop a capability to threaten high-value targets on the mainland, with Three Gorges as an example. Let's see--taking down associated generators, substations, HV transmission lines, and/or damaging gates, etc., all constitute "threats" to Three Gorges, so this is apparently just another HJC "leaping to (wrong) conclusions and supporting them with cites taken-out-of-context" exercise... Brooks -HJC Don't you guys read the newspapers? This story, about Taiwan holding high value targets on the mainland at risk to include breaching of said dam as primary, not just the associated infrasturcture, has been an AP piece in the LA Times all week. I think there were at least a couple of stories about it including the Sino response about "...blocking out the sky..." with their retaliation. The first question is meant to be rhetorical. Don't ride the "no I don't read the crap liberal media" horse. No, my impression of the general media when it comes to things military is not too complimentary. If your numerous references in the LA Times to this come from the DoD report mentioned by Mr. Cobb, then it has been taken out of context (just as Mr. Cobb has--and has repeatedly done in the past)--read the actual verbage in the report. It does not credit Taiwan with this capability, nor does it specify that in order to target said dam, one would have to actually breach it--it only mentions that some Taiwanese have ruminated over the possibility of their being able to hit HVT's, with Three Gorges mentioned as an example, as being a good course of action for the future. In other words, it is a non-story. Brooks Well, I'd have to say you missed the whole point of the "story" Brooks. It's a political story about politics taken to extremes and what that would mean to the U.S. politically or, more problematically, militarily, vis-a-vis GWB stated intention to defend Taiwan. WRT the rest of your response, it's irrelevant to me that you have a problem with Mr. Cobb whom I don't recall seeing here before, maybe just me not noticing or you noticing too much. I read the report and your interpretation of it not mentioning Taiwanese military capability is, IMHO, also irrelevant to the story. It's a political piece by the DoD discusing the East Asian balance of power and that regions huge influence on the world militarily and politically over the coming decades. In other words, it's the antithesis of a non-story. R/JB |
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