General Zinni on Sixty Minutes

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Bush clearly did not complete his military service.


Bush clearly completed his military service.



There is no dispute on that.


Actually, many ignorant people dispute it.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Everyone hasn't done what Art did, but a large number (including Gore)
did what they were required to do. Bush did not.


Gore served five months of a one-year tour in Vietnam, Bush completed his
military service.

Just for the sake of accuracy, it wasn't a term, it was a commitment.
Unless
the definitions have changed, terms apply to enlistments and commitments
apply
to lengths of service. In any event, whatever you choose to call it, he
didn't
complete it.

Can you really blame him? He was the son of an important family...

Yes. He can easily be blamed. One of FDR's closest advisers -- Harry
Hopkins, I believe -- had a 19 year old son killed on Iwo Jima.

Walt

Did you find it sad that Clinton was CiC?


Yes.

Walt

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Obviously not, because Bush wsa clearly in an unauthorized status,
and he was not held accountable.


If Bush had not done his duty he'd have paid a price, that much is certain.
Since he paid no penalty it's obvious he did his duty.



It was the '70's, the military was very unpopular, and Bush's daddy
was around to make sure no actions were taken.


Kinda like Gore and his daddy.



And Bush was in the National Guard, which is -not- the same as the
Air Force.


Nope. It's not the same as the Army or Navy either. But they're all
military service.



That's a false statement. Kerry did serve his full tour.


Negative. Kerry served a bit more than four months of a one year tour.



Not with his father covering his ass.


His father wouldn't even if he could.



Bill Clinton is not running for office.


It was the Kerry campaign that chose to make Vietnam an issue. That being
the case, Bill Clinton's behavior during the Vietnam war and Kerry's
statements during the 1992 campaign regarding Clinton's status are fair
game.



This time around a decorated Viet Nam veteran is running against a putz
who
didn't even go to OCS.


A decorated veteran who sought three Purple Hearts under questionable
circumstances and used them to get out of Vietnam well short of a full tour.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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When I vote for Kerry, is that a vote for totalitarianism?


Totalitarianism is a bit extreme, but a vote for Kerry, or any other
liberal, is certainly a vote against freedom.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Can you show us anywhere to look for confirmation of that?


Try Google.



He skipped a physical that took him off flying status.


He was then in a unit equipped with an aircraft that he wasn't qualified in.
He wasn't going to fly anyway so there was no need for the physical.



He did not
satisfactorily complete his term of service, and I don't think even the
RNC is
saying he did. Can you confirm?


Bush presented documentation and a member of that unit issued a statement
confirming Bush's service several months ago.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Bush did not satisfactorily complete his term of service.


Prove it.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Bush "hid" in Texas by seeking a National Guard assignment at all.


Right. Hide in plain sight.



That Bush did not satisfactorily complete his required service is not in
dispute. He clearly did not.


The evidence shows he did.



As when Art was a bombardier, he is right on target.


There's no evidence that Art ever hit a target.

"WalterM140" wrote in message
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Bush clearly -did not- complete his service satisfactorily.


Well, since available documents and at least one witness statement show he
did complete his service, you're clearly a liar or just plain stupid.